Atkins Diet Plan Questions & Answers

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Tracy08
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Tue May 13, 2008 2: 49 am   Post subject: New to this board
Hi I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Tracy, I ' m married and have 3 kids, live in the Midwest!
I have been following Atkins Induction for about 4 weeks now. I did have a bad slip - up early on but got right back on track the next day. I am not saying I haven ' t had a bite of something forbidden SINCE then but it has been very minimal. For mothers day my parents got me chocolate covered strawberries and I also got some thin mints! So I had one strawberry last night and one tonight, the rest of the candy is going to my family. So it hasn ' t been perfect, but I ' m doing the best I can. I have lost a total of 12lbs. so far. It ' s been tough for me to learn how to change my eating habits as food has always been so important to me but I ' m going to stick with it!
jellybaby
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Tue May 13, 2008 4: 58 pm   Post subject: Wow
Still a loss of 12lbs BIG well done.
It is hard, but ANY Diet healthy eating plan is hard, Its just getting out of old habits which im sure we all will.
Ive only just starting but im looking to lose 60lbs.
Good Luck
Mich x [ / icon_razz. gif]
heyla44
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Tue May 13, 2008 6: 12 pm   Post subject:
12lbs is great! That ' s exactly how much I ' ve lost, feels good doesn ' t it?
Also, those chocolate covered strawberries sound really good, definitely worth a sneaky cheat ( don ' t tell anyone I said that! ) If there ' s any left over send ' em my way! [ / icon_wink. gif]
karenjs
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Wed May 14, 2008 6: 05 am   Post subject:
It can be hard to deal with gifts of food. Giving the mints to your family is a great idea.
On Induction, though, chocolate covered strawberries can really set you back. There ' s more room for variations like that during OWL.
I have told most people who know me well enough to give me a gift, that I am doing Atkins. Even so, I ' ve received food gifts that the gift - giver knows is not on my food plan. I just thank them and then serve it to whoever is nearby.
I ' m not sure if our loved ones forget what we ' ve committed to eat, or if they don ' t agree with our decision, so they sabotage it. Either way, we need to be firm.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.059-08:00

Fast Food Restaurants
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Marinewifeandmom
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Tue May 13, 2008 12: 08 am Post subject: Fast Food Restaurants
Long John Silvers was brough home today and I ate the fish and chicken and took the breading off the exterior - is that ok still to eat? Thanks!
karenjs
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Wed May 14, 2008 5: 53 am Post subject:
You did well to remove the breading. It adds so many carbs. I ' ve done the same thing when my family was eating fried chicken.
Of course, even better would be to have grilled, baked or roasted fish or chicken instead, because it ' s hard to get all the breading off.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.058-08:00

What ' s the best bedtime snack?
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ilovenick
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 5: 31 am   Post subject: What ' s the best bedtime snack?
Just wondering what your fave bedtime snack is? I had dinner tonight at 7 pm and was hungry again by 9 pm!
kidd
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 12: 03 pm   Post subject:
Pork rinds are a Atkins friendly snack, or maybe some nuts, if you are past the induction phase...
afterthought9
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 4: 33 pm   Post subject:
Hmm a cheese stick or hard boiled egg are good too!
rae
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 5: 05 pm   Post subject:
I have found some low carb flatbread. They are the large size and they have 4 net carbs each. I put it in the oven on about 400, it only takes a few min. and they get crisp. I break them up and use them like chips or crackers. They are also good when you put some cheese on them and micro until melted.
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 4: 39 am   Post subject:
During induction:
- a little bit of cheese, such as cheddar or similar induction friendly cheeses
- a hard boiled egg ( yes I ' m image afterthought9 on those [ / icon_lol. gif] but it ' s great advice & is worth repeating )
- A slice of ham or turkey or similar. If it ' s lunch meat rather than carved meat though, check the labels for hidden carbs such as things used in " theraoeutic " meats.
- cheese wrapped in meat lol ( a slice of hard salami wrapped around a little glob of cream cheese is one of my favorites. ) I had to get the good stuff though because some brands of salami had those nasty additives...
After induction:
- pork rinds
- nuts and seeds ( yes, expression kidd as it ' s great advice & is worth repeating )
- more veggies
- everything included supreme on the during induction list [ / icon_wink. gif].
See that ' s the great thing about Atkins! You just keep adding yummy foods!!
Wish I could think of more but it ' s late and my brain hurts...
rae
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 12: 53 pm   Post subject:
You ' re not allowed pork rinds and low carb flatbread during induction? It has been my understanding, that they were allowed.
bluehex
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 12: 58 pm   Post subject:
Pork rinds are OK ( the kind which does not have sugar in the ingredients list - be careful what they are flavoured with! ). Flatbread is positively out. Remember Rule Number One for Induction? " If it ' s not on the acceptable list, don ' t eat it ".
rae
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1: 08 pm   Post subject:
On the Atkins website under the " Two - Week Induction Meal Plan " Day 1 breakfast includes 1 slice bran crisp bread or Wasa high fiber flatbread. Is that information incorrect?
bluehex
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 9: 16 pm   Post subject:
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OMG! I just looked at their Induction Meal Plan, and indeed, it was quite an eye - blastoff! Acceptable foods list has not changed, and bread is still not on it. But things in that two - weeks menu just made me stare at the dissemble...
I mean, I am not even talking about recommending Atkins bars for every day snack, the company has been strictly marketing - serious ever since the Doctor died, but - bran and powdered milk? HONEY MUSTARD, for Pete ' s wellbeing???? Teriyaki sauce? Soy flour? Tortillas??? Where are those on the Acceptable Foods list???
This menu looks like it was written by a person who entirely missed ( or ignored ) the whole POINT of Atkins diet, which is stabilizing blood sugar on a low level. Not to mention, whoever wrote this didn ' t even bother to see to with other parts of the website... Like the acceptable foods list...
I swear I ' ll never direct anybody to their site again. Recommending foods containing straight sugar ( like honey mustard or teriyaki sauce ) or straight starch ( bread / tortillas ) is in direct contradiction to the cool of the diet.
It ' s a shame, because this used to be a relatively reliable online resource ( minus the brand products issue ), now it cannot be trusted anymore. Pity.
Stick to the books, folks ( and make sure they were issued no later than 2000 ) [ / icon_sad. gif]
Edit: Looks like the menu is the only slip - up so far... The " induction rules " chapter still contains this:
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3. Eat absolutely no fruit, bread, pasta, grains, starchy vegetables or dairy products other than cheese, cream or butter. Do not eat nuts or seeds in the first two weeks. Foods that combine protein and carbohydrates, such as chickpeas, kidney beans and other legumes, are not permitted at this time. If you feel you must eat bread or some other grain product, only high fiber low - carb products with 3 net carbs or less per serving are allowed, and you can eat only one serving a day. Be aware that even that amount may slow or stall your progress, and if that happens, drop the product immediately.
4. Eat nothing that isn ' t on the Acceptable Foods list. And that means absolutely nothing. Your " just this one taste won ' t hurt " rationalization is the kiss of failure during this phase of Atkins.
Justice
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 9: 21 pm   Post subject:
Big Glass of COLD water and some shut eye.... if you ' ve eaten properly throughout the day, then you only THINK you are hungry.. don ' t get in the bad habit of eating within a few hours of bed time.. AT WORST, have a bite of protein, but not much...
rae
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 12: 48 am   Post subject:
Try some pepperoni chips. They have the crunch factor, which is something I miss. Place sliced pepperoni in a 425 degree oven for 8 - 10min, remove and blot up excess oil and return to oven for another 2 - 4min. They will stay crisp for about two days in a airtight container.
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Mon Nov 05, 2007 6: 35 pm   Post subject:
Why pork rinds cannot be eaten during induction if they are only pork with no other things and pork is allowed??
Fiona
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Mon Nov 05, 2007 6: 39 pm   Post subject:
for me bedtime snack depends on how many carbs I had during the day, if I had 17 then I can eat 1 oz of cheese, or a sugarfree jello with heavy cream. Once I had a frankfurter cause I was starving and wa sooooo gooooood!!! but of couse, one must be careful that there are no nitrates and we must buy only the ones with 1 carb and not 2 carb.
bluehex
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Mon Nov 05, 2007 7: 26 pm   Post subject:
Fiona wrote:
Why pork rinds cannot be eaten during induction if they are only pork with no other things and pork is allowed??
Pork rinds are allowed at all stages of the diet. They are even allowed in the Fat Fast.
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 5: 24 am   Post subject:
You do have to be careful when you buy pork rinds. READ THE LABEL. If they are flavored ( BBQ is often a problem flavor ) they may have dextrose or other sugars added as part of the flavoring. I still used the HOT flavored ones... but some flavors have more sugar then others.
I found the snack I kept coming back to was cheese and some sort of meat like salami or ham.
Lately I ' ve been eating my dinner later and find I don ' t need the snack.
Fiona
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 3: 54 pm   Post subject:
Bliss Pirate wrote:
You do have to be careful when you buy pork rinds. READ THE LABEL. If they are flavored ( BBQ is often a problem flavor ) they may have dextrose or other sugars added as part of the flavoring. I still used the HOT flavored ones... but some flavors have more sugar then others.
I have here a BBQ pork rinds package and there is nothing about sugars, dextorse etc, it is writen " 0 ". Could the sugars be hidden??

2008-11-06T02:00:00.056-08:00

Garcinia Cambogia ( look for it )
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 6: 52 am   Post subject: Garcinia Cambogia ( look for it )
Garcinia cambogia
" It is referred to as one of the best weight loss herbs. Till date, no single possible adverse effect of Garcinia cambogia has been reported. It functions as a metabolic compulsion. It helps the body by integrating a slow metabolic action with an increased potential. It is an magnificent appetite suppressant, which helps you to have a good control over your food craving. ".. American Chronicle
i ' ve got 2 bottles ( 60 pills ), and i intend to start using it today... i will let you know if it really makes a difference.
bluehex
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 9: 10 am   Post subject:
Good luck, but on Atkins you don ' t really need appetite suppressants. Ketosis in itself suppresses appetite and after a few weeks you actually have to remind yourself to eat...
molley
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 2: 06 pm   Post subject:
It ' s true... before Atkins I never missed a meal.
I remember being REALLY shocked one day when I was about to go to bed at around midnight that I hadn ' t eaten one bite of food since 11am that day.

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Shiritaki noodles
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Kris_T
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Sat Ruin 01, 2008 10: 32 pm Post subject: Shiritaki noodles
I was wondering if these are allowed on induction? I don ' t remember specifically seeing yams as being allowed, and that ' s what these noodles are made from.
Thanks! Kris [ / icon_smile. gif]
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Sun Blemish 02, 2008 3: 31 am Post subject:
They are not on the list but I can ' t imagine why they wouldn ' t be allowed. They are not the same as a regular yam. Have you tried them yet? They are really odd. My husband and I have eaten them a few times and can ' t decide if we like them or not. They look like pasta and don ' t have a bad taste but the texture is somewhat unnerving.

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Atkins Diet Help please
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Creaxe
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 8: 19 am   Post subject: Atkins Diet Help please
I ' ve been reading up on this diet... and i hear good things and i hear bad things... i hear it works wonders, and i hear it ' s also a major Health issue...
so i ' m really confused on if i should even do it or not... [ / icon_confused. gif]
kidd
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 1: 04 pm   Post subject:
For me... I ' ve tried many diets over the years and this one worked best for my situation. The decrease in cravings and not being hungry was what I was looking for... and got. I ' m more healthy now than before I started w / Atkins. No health problems at all. But everyone is different.... This is an Atkins support site, so you are most likely to get " support " here.... and it helps a great deal! Good luck!
molley
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Sat Nov 10, 2007 4: 54 pm   Post subject:
Kidd states some wise words. hehehe.
Creaxe - - read the book. You must figure for yourself! I am completely confident that if you pursue the guidelines of the diet, there ' s no way it could be unhealthy. A lot of people who complain the diet haven ' t studied it. They just here, what?? No carbohydrates? That ' s wrong. That ' s not even what the diet stipulates.
Good luck,
Molley
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Sat Nov 10, 2007 8: 47 pm   Post subject: Re: Atkins Diet Help please
Creaxe wrote:
i hear it works wonders, and i hear it ' s also a major Health issue...
Well, it can be both depending on how you do the diet. It can work wonders, but it ' s not a " miracle diet ". It ' s a method of healthy eating that needs to be a lifestyle! People seem to think that Atkins=meat meat meat. If you eat nothing but bacon, red meat, eggs, etc., sure it can be a health issue. If you ' re consuming HUGE quantities of saturated fats, sure it can be a health issue. But one has to realize that ' s not the way this diet works! You NEED to eat the veggies! You need to incorporate lean, healthy meats like chicken and fish. Americans consume WAY too many carbs, mostly in the form of processed flours, sugars, etc... far more than anyone NEEDS. You can easily get plenty of carbs from healthy, whole foods like broccoli, spinach, and other veggies.
Remember, Atkins isn ' t NO carbs. It ' s LOW ( and healthy ) carbs.
Justice
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 3: 49 pm   Post subject:
I am the perfect clinical study of this diet: I started at 345 lbs. with numerous health problems. The doctor said " pick any diet. " I chose Atkins, and visited my DR. once per month for blood work. Almost 8 months later, i have now lost 125 lbs. and my blood stats are great and the doctor is elated. Read the book, drink tons of water, excercise daily, and follow this forum. You ' ll be fine!!!!
molley
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 4: 14 pm   Post subject:
that ' s super impressive. 125 lbs!! Are you still losing? And DO YOU HAVE PICTURES?
Justice
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 5: 36 pm   Post subject:
I will maintain as suggested by the book, although i may lose another 5 - 6 pounds.... either way it does not matter... at age 41, i am back to my college weight, have gone from a 50 inch waist to a 34, and am very comfortable with what i eat and how i excercise.... sorry, no pictures. Stick with it!!!!

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chewing gum
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molley
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 2: 36 pm Post subject: chewing gum
Does anyone know of any chewing gum that ' s atkins friendly? Obviously there are a bajillion brands of sugar - free gum but it seems that they replace it with sorbitol or fructose. Even trident which advertises its use of xylithol ( yay! ) lists sorbital as its first ingredient.
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Sun Nov 11, 2007 5: 38 pm Post subject:
I don ' t of any gum without sorbitol, but I ' ve never had a problem chewing the gum.

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Jumping right in!
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Kris_T
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Mon Feb 25, 2008 11: 31 pm   Post subject: Jumping right in!
Hi everyone, I ' m re - starting Atkins again, if that makes sense. I sucessfully lost 20 pounds back in 2005, but due to a few moves and general laziness in my eating, I managed to put about 10 or so back on. The book I had been using was the ' Atkins for Life ', but I ' ve since gotten rid of it and ordered the ' New Diet Revolution '. In the meantime, I ' ve read and printed out enough info online that I felt confident to start induction this past Append. Today is day 6, so the brain vapour is gone ( I was actually having trouble driving! [ / icon_eek. gif] ), my cravings have ceased, appetite is down, and I have my normal energy level back.
I ' ve found it helps to note down my food intake which helps me be explicable. It also forced me to figure out if I was really hungry or merely bored and wanting to just bite. I have a small Atkins carb - counting book that has been genuinely helpful in regard to that. The only issue I ' ve ran into so far has been a banquet we went to last night. Luckily I came prepared with some cut - up veggies and some cheese and salami that I was able to mouthful on, because the only thing that was suitable to eat was the beef part ( it was all chinese - style food ), orange chicken, rice, breads, other starchy things and sweet & sour things. Oh, and of course, cake! - lol. I got some funny looks as I bypassed everything, but to anyone who asked, I just explained why I looked like a total carnivore! I was dying for a nice big, green salad!!
I ' ve been keeping up my exercise routine which is 5x a week, and since Melt., I ' ve already lost 4 pounds. It ' s pretty amazing how fast it can come off. I also went out and bought the ketone strips, they regularly range from 40 - 80. I suppse that ' s related to my water intake. I really need to be better about that.
Anyway, I ' ve been reading the board for about a week, and there ' s so much wonderful information here. Everyone seems extremely nice and supportive.
I wish everyone well with their weight loss!
Kris
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 2: 08 pm   Post subject:
Everyone is really nice and helpful. Welcome and well done on the weight loss so far! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
Kris_T
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 6: 12 pm   Post subject:
Thanks! Down another pound as of yesterday at the gym. I don ' t own a scale, and I don ' t have time to exercise today ( laundry + work ), so I will check tomorrow when I go running.
Today is day 8 of induction and I have sucessfully beat my cravings for sweet things. I know this because I made a pan of brownies for our kids last night and had no urge to try one or sneak a chocolate chip. It was very [ / icon_cool. gif]! I ' m one of those all or nothing people, so cold turkey is the way to go for me!
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Thu Feb 28, 2008 10: 44 pm   Post subject:
Ugh. I ' m really missing snacky, crunchy things. I ' m sure pork rinds are a no - no on induction. I really miss them dipped in sour cream!!
Kris_T
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 10: 26 pm   Post subject:
Today is day 11 of induction, and I ' ve lost another pound. This makes 5 pounds so far.
Not too bad, but I don ' t have a whole lot to lose in the first place. My goal was only 10 - 15 pounds, so no biggie. My main goal was first and foremost to clean up my diet and eliminate my sugar cravings.
Think I ' ve almost done it! [ / icon_smile. gif]

2008-11-06T02:00:00.046-08:00

I am gaining weight on induction
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dalmatiansrus
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Fri Feb 22, 2008 8: 26 pm   Post subject: I am gaining weight on induction
I have been on Induction phase for the past 12 days. I thought from reading the book that I would begin rapid weight loss. I resisted the urge to peek at the scale from the my start day until today. And when I did look, I was shocked to see that I have gained three pounds. [ / icon_sad. gif]
I do feel as though my waistband fits looser - also, had to move my bra to a tighter fit.
So, why the weight gain?
I have read the book, been eating right, exercising, and drinking water. I actually stepped on the scale expecting to see a loss, but am very concerned that I ' ve gone the reverse way.
Where can I be going wrong?
Are there any veteran Atkins users out there with any advice?
Thanks,
dalmatiansrus
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Fri Feb 22, 2008 10: 39 pm   Post subject:
OK - I posted in panic. I just re - took my measurements from 13 days ago. I have definitely lost 3 / 4 " off hips; 1 " around my abdomen; 1 " around the bust - the roll of fat around my back appears to be gone.
I am hoping that the weight gain is muscle mass, as I have been going to a really fun pole dancing class twice a week, walking on my treadmill, and using the Bowflex.
Perhaps that is causing the discrepancy between my lost inches vs. scale weight gain?
karenjs
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Mon Feb 25, 2008 8: 32 pm   Post subject:
Muscle definitely weighs more than fat. That could be it. Also, your scale could be off.
I ' m glad you took your measurements. That ' s a much better indication of your progress!

2008-11-06T02:00:00.044-08:00

Carb free Russel Stover Chocolate???
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sleepisforsissies
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Fri Feb 22, 2008 3: 10 am   Post subject: Carb free Russel Stover Chocolate???
I bought a bag of Sugar free Russell Stover Pecan Delights. They are so good!! 23 grams of total carbs. 4 grams of dietary fiber. And 18 grams of sugar alcohol. They are so good! Are they ok for me to eat?
grnthmbfinnie
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Sat Feb 23, 2008 5: 31 pm   Post subject:
I have been eating them for the last two weeks. If you eat too many.... can cause diarrhea in some... I use them only when I need them. I also noticed I haven ' t lost any weight since I started eating them.... I read in another post that sugar alcohols can cause stalls in some people.
They do taste good though!!
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Sun Feb 24, 2008 11: 57 pm   Post subject:
are you in induction? If so, then put them away. If not, it still sounds like a lot of carbs to me.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.042-08:00

Caffeine Addiction
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dalmatiansrus
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Mon Feb 25, 2008 11: 49 pm Post subject: Caffeine Addiction
Thank you! That ' s a relief to know. The caffeine addiction is something for me to work on later - giving up my salt, carbs, and soda is enough to start! [ / icon_lol. gif] A girl ' s gotta have SOME fun!

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ughh how do I give up a nice glass of MILK
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gibsonman
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Thu Oct 18, 2007 11: 39 pm   Post subject: ughh how do I give up a nice glass of MILK
seriously. my roommates go through milk like crazy and a nice ice cold glass just sounds soooo tasty. for about a week I was taking half and half and putting water in it to water it down some and I would drink that. no stalls, kept losing etc, but its just not the same, and it kinda started grossing me out just the thought of it, so i stopped.
UGH!!
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 4: 03 am   Post subject:
Half and Half isn ' t really something you should be having either. Only heavy cream ( whipping cream - the real stuff - read the lables to make sure it hasn ' t been adulterated with additives and milk. )
There is a Hood product that is a good standin for milk. Carb Options or something like that. Tastes good to me, but I would only use it on very atypical ocasions.
The bottom line is you are changing how you eat and what foods you marshal to consume. Milk is great for babies, but you don ' t need it any more. Plus... once you ' ve got the nice cold glass of milk right there, it is just too easy to add a couple of cookies to go along with it.
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 10: 37 pm   Post subject:
I agree about the baby part, and the part about the cookies... besides milk has no flavor anyhow. The thing you like is the texture and temperature. Remember, anything really, really cold will do the trick, and it will also curb your appetite.
gibsonman
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 4: 50 pm   Post subject:
my problem with this diet has always been beverages. I hate diet drinks. I just only drink water. zilcho, notta, thats it. no ice tea with splenda, no diet sodas, nothing. I feel the best when I only drink water and lots of it, but every meal I just crave some other beverage. I ' m not a big sweet person. carby foods only taste good because of the non carby things you put on them... ie baked potato is only good with butter, sour cream and cheese and bacon. bagel is good because of cream cheese.. well except maybe a cinnamin raison bagel. etc etc you get my point. pasta is only good with sauce.
its just the drinks!! maybe i should test my weight loss by drinking diet dr pepper because I do like that just fine but I figure only drinking water is the best.
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 10: 07 am   Post subject:
Yogurt is high in calcium and has fewer carbs than milk.
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 12: 37 am   Post subject:
soymilk soymilk soymilk!
get the unsweetened stuff and you got 3 - 4g per serving.
get the asian ( slightly thinner due to lack of thickeners such as carageenan ) stuff and you are close to 0!
or, if you really get nuts, get a can of whipped cream ( 1g ) and take a spoon full every now and again. it ' s rich, creamy, and will probably satisfy you until your next meal.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.038-08:00

is ' 1 oz of chicken ' - 1oz of RAW chicken?
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yaz180
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Tue Feb 19, 2008 10: 28 pm   Post subject: is ' 1 oz of chicken ' - 1oz of RAW chicken?
stupid question may be
but if i weight 1oz of chicken when its raw then i get only 1 cube. lol
that can ' t be right?
when he says in his book an ounce of meat etc its cooked meat right? [ / icon_eek. gif]
bluehex
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Tue Feb 19, 2008 10: 44 pm   Post subject:
It doesn ' t matter - it has no carbs, so you can essentially have as much as you want...
yaz180
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 12: 55 am   Post subject:
I understand that - but i am asking for a particular reason.
clutterbunny
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 3: 23 am   Post subject:
I ' ve always understood weights to be BEFORE cooking.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.036-08:00

How much weight did you lose during induction?
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PopcornEeyore
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 5: 13 pm   Post subject: How much weight did you lose during induction?
Hello. How much weight did you lose during induction?
What weight did you start at?
Just want to see if I am normal...
Thanks,
Michelle
pheonixheart
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 7: 15 am   Post subject:
hi,
I only lost 3 lbs during induction... don ' t recall the start weight though. I have pretty high resistance...
Good luck to you though!!
molley
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 5: 13 pm   Post subject:
I lost 10 lbs.
Fiona
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 6: 10 pm   Post subject:
I lost 4. 8 the after the first two weeks and since then... now 6 weeks I have been stalled, not a lot of weight change nor measures change but I like the diet and as I am not the sugar tooth type then this diet is easy to follow for me.
By the way I am still in induction and since I am not loosing a lot will stay here for awhile.
zookerman182
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 10: 36 pm   Post subject:
i lost about 20 lbs during my first two weeks and have been on the diet since october 1st and have lost a total of 40 lbs so far. My starting weight was 290.
Bliss Pirate
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 5: 19 am   Post subject:
I lost about 45 lbs, but then had to move on to a more diverse food list and OWL because induction was getting boring.
But I did induction for almost 4 months before adding some new foods.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.034-08:00

INSPIRATION
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Constitutionality
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 8: 19 am   Post subject: INSPIRATION
iT HAS NOW BEEN 7 MONTHS EXACTLY, AND MY BODY IS NO LONGER Enthusiastic TO LOSE POUNDS... I STARTED AT 345 AND AM NOW AT 219... I HAVE LOST 126 POUNDS USING THE TECHNIQUES DISCUSSED ON THIS FORUM.... EAT RIGHT, EXCERCISE, AND DRINK YOUR WATER AND YOU TOO WILL SUCCCEED BY TRUSTING THIS STYLE OF LIVING... EVERYTHING TO GET YOU STARTED IS IN THE BOOK, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THIS FORUM.... 126 POUNDS IN 7 MONTHS.. YOU CAN DO IT TOO
blackhills2007
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 8: 49 pm   Post subject:
congrats! that is very inspirational!! what is your current excercise plan?? have you attempted to switch up working out, i use to be a college athlete and one thing that the coach recommended when we tried to lose weight was to workout multiple small sessions in the day as opposed to once long session, ( for instance, as opposed to an hour in the morning, try half an hour in the morning and night ).. Congrats on the good work so far and best of luck through this time!
Justice
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 9: 10 pm   Post subject:
My body has stopped losing weight because it is at its ideal weight.... 6 ' 4 ' ', 220, age 41.... all in 7 months... evrything is in maintenance now... KEEP GOING PEOPLE!!!

2008-11-06T02:00:00.032-08:00

Viva Low Carb?
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rae
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 12: 29 am   Post subject: Viva Low Carb?
Has anyone ever heard of Viva Low Carb Superstore? I found it online, and they claim to have zero carb bread & buns made from flaxseed. Thinking about having them keel me some, but wanted to find our if anyone had tried it yet.
towhook
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 3: 54 am   Post subject:
I went to the site. I wish they would show the nutritional information. It says all the carbs are fiber so zero net carb.
bluehex
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 8: 18 am   Post subject:
Check the serving size...
Zero carb is impossible - they have to put SOMETHING in those buns, they are not made of air and water. Flax has 2. 5 net carbs per cup, eggs have carbs etc.
Having said that, it is probably a VERY good product ( carb - wise, no idea about the taste ), flax is very, very healthy and better than most flour replacements. I just tend to mistrust companies which try to cheat on their information, even a little bit. So before you buy, I ' d check the ingredient list very carefully ( what if their products are loaded with maltitol? Or other carbs which " don ' t count " for manufacturers, but do count for eaters? )
rae
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 12: 49 pm   Post subject:
If you go to the zero carb bread and select " more pictures " you can see the values and what ' s in it.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.030-08:00

My Atkins adventures
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tickerrose
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 12 pm   Post subject: My Atkins adventures
Hello everyone!
My name is Erika and at 30 years of age I found myself ( yet again ) at 255 lbs. last weekend. I have been on Atkins before and was very successful until I moved to another state and behind a bagel shop.
I stuck my head in the ecru for a long while, avoiding the gradual tightening of my pants and contraction of my shirts for a long time, but finally got the courage to step on the scale last week and frontage reality. On Sunday I started Atkins for the second time and am now on day six. I made mistakes this week and ate foods I guess I was remembering from OWL last time ( i. e. four strawberries and nuts ) yesterday. I re - read the book last night and am fearing I have to start the whole two weeks over from [ / icon_scratch. gif].
When I weighed myself this morning I was down 4 lbs from last Sunday. ( 251 )
I have been struggling with the menu this time. On day 1 and 2 and part of 3 of the diet I was feeling great, full of energy and excited. By Wednesday I started feeling pretty weak and headachy, so I went for some nuts to try and take it away. This feeling stretching yesterday and I ended up eating four strawberries.
Other then that it has been mainly eggs, butter, lettuce, steak, chicken, cheese, cucumbers, bacon and some ham.
Do I need to re - set the two week clock because of the nuts and Strawberries?
Please help in any way. I always do better with a support system in place and I could use any feedback anyone is kind enough to give.
maro
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 16 pm   Post subject:
hi erika welcome!
if you are in ketosis then you dont need to go back and do the whole 2 weeks again
artinformation
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 23 pm   Post subject:
Welcome Erika
I am so glad that you decided to give Atkins a 2nd go. This forum is wonderful. Everyone is so supportive and helpful. Just stop the nuts and strawberries and go next the allowed foods and you should be fine. Lots of good luck and keep us all posted
bluehex
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 37 pm   Post subject:
Hello, Erika
It ' s as Maro said, if you are in ketosis you don ' t need to apprehension. Good luck!
tickerrose
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 42 pm   Post subject:
Thank you all so much for the sunny welcome. I do not know if I am in Ketosis because I live in the sticks and have not been able to drive the 45 almanac to the GNC which I know carries the little Ketosticks. I assume that because I was loosing weight ( even at 255, 4 lbs in 5 - 6 days is pretty good, right? ) that I am in Ketosis.
What would have led to the sleepy ( almost drugged ) feeling and headache that was plaguing me in days 3 and 4? I was eating enough to be full and eating the right foods.... I just couldn ' t get rid of that feeling. i was also getting very shakey and was having a hard time holding the spatula while making my eggs. I don ' t remember this from before.
bluehex
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 45 pm   Post subject:
It ' s called Atkins Flu. Carbs withdrawal symptoms. A very normal thing.
tickerrose
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 6: 05 pm   Post subject:
I think I got past the worst of the Atkins flu ( thanks for telling me about that one! ) but now I am frustrated because on day eight, I have not lost but two to three lbs overall. I am still plugging away, tryong to figure out what I am doing wrong and what I can do better. I am trying very hard to cut out diet soda completely. This is very hard for me. Harder than all other aspects of the diet.
Also, what is the word on Atkins Advantage products during induction? Are they allowed at all? Or should I just keep them locked in the BAD cupboard ( the one my hubby gets to use ) until my two week induction is up next week?
bluehex
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 7: 45 pm   Post subject:
Honestly?
There are very mixed opinions on these. My own, private opinion is, it ' s best to keep them locked in the BAD cupboard until the expiry date, after which you can throw them away and not feel to blame about it.
But that ' s me, some people are not affected by them. Search the forum for " Atkins bars ", you will find a gazillion topics on them....
DJJayito
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 10: 32 pm   Post subject:
BAGELS! YUM! Especially if you live on Long Island. lol
DJJayito
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 10: 35 pm   Post subject:
In terms of the Atkins Bars which are said to be acceptable in all phases of the diet... I ate them religiously my first time around on Atkins and successfully lost weight, so I will say, they didn ' t bother my weight loss, but many people will read the label and say " 20 grams of carbs... That can ' t be good for induction. " If you ' re looking to try them, then do just that... Try them and see what happens.
tickerrose
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 4: 22 pm   Post subject:
So today I am on day 10 of induction and have not experienced any expressing weight loss. I do however feel different and my body is changing. I remember from doing the diet before ( and loosing successfully ) that the scale is not always your friend and the numbers you see there do not always body how much fat you have lost. I found some good information about that in the Q and A section.
I am having trouble drinking enough water. I beef to get down a liter of water a day and hope it becomes easier as I get more and more in the habit. I have cut out the diet / caff. free soda because I think it may have been a awkward block for me.
I don ' t think I am giving up on the Atkins bars for good, as I remember using them the last time I did the diet and still found success. I will keep them locked away until the end of my induction period however, just to be safe.
I finally had to order some Ketostix off e - bay and they should be arriving in the next 1 to 2 days. It is very frustrating doing the diet and not having that check that you are indeed in Ketosis.
I had to start taking FiberCon today to help with a little constipation. I don ' t think i have gone, for real, in about four or five days and I think that is having some effect on my weightloss as well.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Ginny_O
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 5: 07 pm   Post subject:
Water is probably your biggest issue right now. One liter just isn ' t enough. I like water, so it isn ' t a big problem for me. I keep a full bottle next to me at all times and drink all during the day. I ' ll also drink a glass of water every time I go to the bathroom and another every time I eat something. It adds up.
tickerrose
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 6: 31 pm   Post subject:
It has been a little over two weeks now ( I am on day 16 ) and I have finally started to drop pounds as well as inches. I am still struggling to drink enough water and have to work at that every day.
I am worried at this point that I am not getting enough calories. I have experienced such a drop in my appetite, that I hardly ever feel like eating. If I wait to eat until I actually get hungry, I could go five or six hours between meals. It ' s almost 2 in the afternoon now and I am still working on my 2 eggs with cheese and fried ham I brought with me for breakfast. I take a few bites, keep working and before I know it half the day is gone. I don ' t know what to do about this. Should I just force myself to eat when I am not hungry? Has anyone else experienced this?
Also I have not been sleeping nearly as well as I used to. I sleep very lightly and end up waking up 5 - 6 times a night to go to the bathroom ( a result of all the extra water I have been drinking perhaps ).
I still haven ' t received the ketostix I ordered off e - bay and I told the people I needed them soon. [ / icon_evil. gif]
I just need that extra proof that what I am doing is working....
Another benefit of my new way of eating is that I started my period today and was completely surprised by it. Usually my PMS symptoms are so bad I am in hell for 2 - 3 days beforehand and am well prepared for it when she arrives. This time, not so much as a twinge of cramps, which is a complete miracle for me!
tickerrose
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 4: 05 pm   Post subject:
Okay, I have decided that I don ' t care if anyone writes me back.... I am just going to keep journaling my experiences here and posing my questions even if nobody cares to post back.
Just so you know, I have already read the the FAQ and did not find my answeres there. I would also like to point out that this forum, from what I understand, is for people who are starting on the Atkins diet and need some positive support and guidance. When someone asks a questions and are told, in a not so friendly way, to just check the FAQ, they could be shamed to the point where they don ' t come back and get the support they really need. I hope people realize this, that just because they have been here for a while and know the FAQ and the book backwards and forwards, this is a thread for induction phase and you are bound to get silly, asked a million times questions here and there. If you don ' t want to answer them, fine. Just please don ' t make the poster feel alienated.
As for my possible silly questions: I have been reading the book, but as I live in a very rural area and have a difficult time getting out and about, I picked up an older copy of Dr. Atkins book at a second hand store. It is not The New Diet Revolution, but was published before that I believe. I was wondering if anyone knew any major differences in his first book and the New Diet Revolution. I am following the book to the letter right now and although I have been showing moderate to large on all my ketostix in the last two weeks, I have lost very, very little, if at all. I was wondering what could cause this? I am working my butt off here and would really like to see some results. I have increased my activity and kept up with my water intake. Any thoughts?
I would like to thank everyone who takes the time to answer questions in a kind and supportive manner. It helps more than you know to know there are people out there who understand what you are going through and are willing to share their knowledge and experience with others.
maro
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 7: 30 pm   Post subject:
tickerrose... i have one question... have you lost any in inches?
i have seen a pattern of weight loss
after 2 weeks of induction weight doesnot show on scale in 3rd and 4th week ( shows in the measurement ) and again starts to show loss on scale in 5th week and so on
as long as u r lossing in inches... it is working
bluehex
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 7: 38 pm   Post subject:
tickerrose wrote:
When someone asks a questions and are told, in a not so friendly way, to just check the FAQ, they could be shamed to the point where they don ' t come back and get the support they really need. I hope people realize this, that just because they have been here for a while and know the FAQ and the book backwards and forwards, this is a thread for induction phase and you are bound to get silly, asked a million times questions here and there. If you don ' t want to answer them, fine. Just please don ' t make the poster feel alienated.
I am very sorry you feel so badly about this forum. It is, by all means, intended to be friendly and supportive. However, sometimes a poster ( no, it ' s not a quip at you personally, I am talking about a general, purely hypothetical newcomer ) should also make at least a minimum polite effort and read a few threads before they post a question.
FAQs are called " frequently " asked questions for a reason. If you are very new to something of course, you are new and - as you have written - you have this question which has been already asked a million times. But exactly because it has already been asked a million times, it is put in the FAQs. So that people don ' t have to answer it for the million first time. And then the million second. And a week later, a million third. And three days later, a million fourth. Don ' t you think, that exactly because you are very new, it would make sense to check whether your question has not been answered already? Answering such recurring questions is the very function of FAQs. They are not there for the people who have been at it for a very long time, they are specifically for those who are new.
Sometimes a question is left unanswered, because a major discussion is going on in another thread on the very same topic. We assume, that people who come here for support are interested in how other people are doing as well, and read threads other than just their own. So people might not respond in your thread, because they assume you ' ve already read the answer in another thread. This, I guess, would be the case of your previous post - very recently there was another poster who asked about getting enough calories and there was quite a discussion. My guess is, everybody thought you read it too.
Also, there is one thing I don ' t quite get. You wrote you are bound to get silly, asked a million times questions here and there. If you don ' t want to answer them, fine. Just please don ' t make the poster feel alienated. and from your post I understand a poster feels alienated if pointed towards the FAQs. Should I understand that no answer is better than a helpful hint showing where the answer can be easily found? Or do you require that the answer from FAQs be re - typed for you?
Going back to the actual question you posted:
the New Diet Revolution had a number of editions, and the older ones are actually ( in the opinion of many people ) better than the newest ones. But if it ' s an entirely different book, what is the title? And what ' s in it?
If you are moderate to large on ketostix, my guess is you are still not getting enough water. And if you drink less than you should at least 2 liters ), it is almost certainly the reason for your problems. Water is the key to losing weight on Atkins, as it is necessary for fat burning.
Also, maybe you are doing better on inches than on scales? Did you try?
Are you eating enough? You mentioned you had a problem with it. If you are not eating enough for your BMR, your metabolism may be slowing down.
Second time you do Atkins, it usually goes much harder than the first. Nobody knows why. There is this article, " One golden shot ", but it ' s just a theory.
Are you regular in the bathroom? Constipation prevents weightloss. Are you eating Atkins or other low - carb products? They stall many people.
Please post some more specific info, it is really difficult to give any sort of meaningful answer without knowing what it is you actually do..
redboots
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Fri Feb 22, 2008 9: 52 am   Post subject:
tickerrose wrote:
I am worried at this point that I am not getting enough calories. I have experienced such a drop in my appetite, that I hardly ever feel like eating. If I wait to eat until I actually get hungry, I could go five or six hours between meals. It ' s almost 2 in the afternoon now and I am still working on my 2 eggs with cheese and fried ham I brought with me for breakfast. I take a few bites, keep working and before I know it half the day is gone. I don ' t know what to do about this. Should I just force myself to eat when I am not hungry? Has anyone else experienced this?
I ' m exactly the same I don ' t feel hungry anymore. I am trying not to miss meald because it slows weightloss but its hard to eat when your not hungry, but if I don ' t I get really bad headaches, so I think its best it you force yourself to eat something even if its only a small amount.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.028-08:00

Eating Out
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Caoimhe
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Coadunate Feb 20, 2008 1: 01 pm   Post subject: Eating Out
Hi, I ' ve been doing induction for the past week and have lost eight pounds. My boyfriend wants to go out for a meal this Friday and has said I can pluck wherever would suit me best. Does anyone have any advice on what types of restaurants suit the diet best? I know I ' ll have to make alterations and accomodations wherever I go, but if anyone has any suggestions they would be much appreciated!
Thanks [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
maxomo
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Lock Feb 20, 2008 3: 11 pm   Post subject:
A steakhouse.
Scheme a steak and salad. Mild. Just make sure they don ' t add any sugary sauces.
Most restaurants I ' ve been to have at least a few items that are Atkins friendly or juicy modified. For example ask for extra veggies instead of fries or a potato.
pheonixheart
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Weave Feb 20, 2008 4: 39 pm   Post subject:
Hiya and Welcome - & congrats on the loss so far!
Here ' s a few suggestions:
Applebee ' s
Chili ' s
Outback
Bennigan ' s
Any other place with steaks & salads - Maxomo hit the nail on the head [ / icon_wink. gif]
There ' s also seafood restaurants if you like seafood - you can have fish, & of course butter if you want like crab legs or lobster. There ' s clams, oysters... There ' s a lot of options. Only thing to watch for here, is sauces again - not too sugary or sauces thickened with starches. For instance, new england clam chowder might not be the best choice [ / icon_wink. gif]. Good luck!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa
Caoimhe
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 8: 00 am   Post subject:
Thank you both so much, I was a bout to say that I actually live in Ireland but could get an idea from the type of places PhoenixHeart was suggesting even though they aren ' t over here. But then I discovered the American chain Mongolian Barbeque have a branch here which looks ideal!
Thanks again, everyone is so supportive here [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
maro
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 12: 35 pm   Post subject:
i think you there will be some indian restaurants in Ireland
you can try tht if you like indian cuisine
but Mongolian Barbeque sounds low carb [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
desertbitch
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 8: 10 pm   Post subject:
Be very careful with Mongolian BBQ, dont eat ANY sauce! Have fun, though!
sleepisforsissies
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Fri Feb 22, 2008 3: 18 am   Post subject:
You can have a cheeseburger wrapped in lettuce. It ' s very good.
Caoimhe
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Sat Feb 23, 2008 9: 09 pm   Post subject:
Thanks everyone, I had a lovely night out and I didn ' t cheat! so happy x

2008-11-06T02:00:00.026-08:00

HELP PLEASE!
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AUZTRALIKA13
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 2: 33 pm   Post subject: HELP PLEASE!
I am on my 5th day of the induction period and i don ' t seem to be losing any weight.
I am 5`7 and weigh 130 pounds.
My menu is sort of like this
Breakfast: 3 eggs or 100 grams of beef, 3 cups of coffe with splenda and coffe mate
Lunch: 3 sausages with mayo and caesar salad
Dinner: Fish, Meat or Chicken, steamed veggies or salad withranch, vinagrette or caesar dressing
Snack: Cheese
I do chew a lot of sugar free gum, like 2 packs a day.
What do you think, how can I improve my menu.
Thanks
ildanoch
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Posts: 212
Thu Nov 01, 2007 2: 35 pm   Post subject:
why would you want to lose any weight? You didn ' t mention your age but, for an adult that is a perfect weight. Maybe you plainly need toning?
Deborah ( 5 ' 7 ) sw237 cw162 gw145
AUZTRALIKA13
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 2: 44 pm   Post subject:
Hi Deborah
Thanks for your response. I know I am not fat, but a year ago I used to weigh 118 pounds, and I felt much better. My clothes dont fit anymore and I hate it.
I am 26 years old.
I forgot to mention I do cardio ( bike ) 3 times a week for 45 mins.
Any suggestions as to how to improve my regimen
ildanoch
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Posts: 212
Thu Nov 01, 2007 3: 01 pm   Post subject:
Sadly you are getting older and your metabolism and your shape is changing.
Regarding your diet, may I suggest logging everything you eat into fitday. com. Maybe there are areas you can improve. But you won ' t see the significant weight loss those of us with 100 + to lose see.
Regarding exercise, I ' m DEFINATELY not the one to ask about exercise as I don ' t lol. But from what I do know, I ' d suggest you mix up your routine. Add some weights on different days. I know there is something about mixing aerobic and anaerobic for best results.
Good luck!
Deborah sw237 cw162 gw145
Miss_lirpa
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 2: 31 am   Post subject:
The sugar free gum that I have has 2 carbs per stick. Have you checked yours? I was excited at first at being able to still chew this for sugar cravings, but was glad i checked first.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.024-08:00

haha!!
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gibsonman
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 4: 39 am Post subject: haha!!
so my roomates thought it would be funny to make ' special ' brownies and leave them out smart i love brownies and would eat one.. i dont ensue or do drugs or anything and they dont understand why, hell i dont really understand why either, but nonetheless.. the same amount of brownies were still there tonight and they were like you haven ' t eaten any brownies and well.. im not eating brownies right now. then i flat out asked them if they wre special ones and they were.
haha i think this is funny.
Lexi ' s Omi
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 5: 49 am Post subject:
You got the last laugh! [ / icon_lol. gif] Good for you! [ / icon_cool. gif]

2008-11-06T02:00:00.022-08:00

best protein powder?
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dragonsdy
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 12: 47 am Post subject: best protein powder?
I have tried some protein powders and didn ' t like the taste. Does anyone know of one without an after taste?
miffin
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 8: 46 am Post subject:
I am in the UK and just got my first protein powder from Holland and Barrett. It is a soya based one and very reasonably priced compared to most others. We have only used it in cooking things but it seemed fine to us. It is called 90 % Protein.
Brian

2008-11-06T02:00:00.020-08:00

Will i put on?
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Cheri
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Tue Feb 19, 2008 1: 08 pm Post subject: Will i put on?
Hi all
Ive just started the induction phase of the atkins, i am 157 pounds and 5ft 7. I am just slightly concerned as i feel very full, much fuller than normal and because im eating exactly the converse of everything ive ever been told to eat, im a bit worried. And i just read on here that someone said their fiancee actually put on weight!! Now im terrified!! Can anyone advise? [ / icon_question. gif]
pheonixheart
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Span Feb 20, 2008 4: 46 pm Post subject:
Some people do put on weight, especially during TOM but it ' s often water weight. If you do the diet * correctly * and do not cheat, you would have to eat a CRAPLOAD of food to actually gain on this diet - especially during the induction phase. Later phases, when more carbs are gradually introduced, you do need to be a little more careful.
However, cheating even with just a little bit like too much heavy cream or cheese can cause stalls or even gain - but even there, it ' s usually a LOT of stuff like that. And cheating with breads / rice / pasta - that ' s really bad as it completely negates the effect of this way of eating.
Get & read the book - Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution if you haven ' t already, and also make sure to read the stickies in this forum and all the FAQ ' s - I ' m sure you ' ll find tons of helpful info in there [ / icon_smile. gif]. Good Luck!!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa

2008-11-06T02:00:00.018-08:00

Maro... back on day 1
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maro
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 8: 29 pm   Post subject: Maro... back on day 1
hi i am maria and i am seriously fat... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i am 5 ' 2 " and my weight is 230lbs [ / icon_redface. gif]
( it is the first tym i have said my correct weight in public )
its my second attempt at atkins and i hope this tym i would be able to continue it for a longer period.....
first time i couldnt stick to it... and after 4 weeks i felt sick of eating meat and eggs and after tht i didnt ate eggs or meat for 2 months..... [ / icon_rolleyes. gif]
so i am making this topic to keep it as my diary of lossing weight...
DAY ONE i am feeling good abt it...!!!
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Ginny_O
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 12: 12 am   Post subject:
Once you are past induction, you can add a lot of variety to your diet. There are a lot of recipes out there that are low carb but more interesting than just meat and eggs.
Years ago I did Stillman, which is much more rigid than Atkins. ( No fat, no cheese, no vegetables, just meat and eggs. ) I didn ' t last and I learned to hate eggs and chicken. Didn ' t eat either for years. Atkins, OTOH, has been very easy for me to do, because I can eat tomatoes and cheese and strawberries and other foods that I enjoy. A cheese omelet is much tastier than boiled eggs. At least, for me.
desertbitch
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 1: 43 am   Post subject: Hi Maro!
I just started on Tuesday. I also tried before, but didnt take the time to make a variety of foods. I also just ate the meat, cheese and eggs and got real sick of it.
This time I bought a low carb cookbook called Phase 1, low carb recipes, by Better Homes and Gardens. I am not used to following a lot of recipes, but i pronounced all the recipes I thought I could make, then added the veggie recipes that would go with it. I put the name and page number of the veggies on the main dish ' s page. Ugh. I am making the first one tonight. I add potatoes for my family or pasta.
Anyway, I am seriously fat, too and sick of it. It is a whole new way of eating for me, but one I can do.
Good luck. There is also a " progress forum " I posted there. Hope to see us here for a long time.
maro
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 10: 47 am   Post subject:
thx Ginny_O, i will try recipes from this forum... and hope to change my lifestyle... [ / icon_smile. gif]
thx for ur reply desertbitch.... i will post my progress... but i nurse to not check my weight everyday.... so tht i can feel more happy when i see more pounds off me after a week... as always SCALE has not been my friend [ / icon_lol. gif]
Best of luck to all the beginners.... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
maro
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 7: 31 pm   Post subject:
updating my progress....
Day 2 was a full of energy day did alot in tht day and not feeling low which i much do..... [ / icon_wink. gif]
Day 3 was not tht good... alot of craving, headache, dizziness, didnt liked the food [ / icon_cry. gif] tht much but pulled through by taking one step at a time and not thinking abt other things
Day 4 was great again got my energy back, sticking to the right food and at the end of the day i feel happy... [ / icon_smile. gif]
And i joined my community gym.... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
pheonixheart
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 7: 41 pm   Post subject:
Congratulations on the progress!! Glad you ' re feeling right again [ / icon_biggrin. gif]. And I think you ' ll be happy with the recipes on the forum - I ' ve tried some of them and they ' re delicious - and a lot more I haven ' t tried but they sound delicious lol!! Best of Luck!!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa
maro
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 7: 54 pm   Post subject:
thx [ / icon_lol. gif]
molley
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 5: 30 pm   Post subject:
congrats. I ' m sorry you had such a bad time the first time around. It doesn ' t sound like you were getting enough fiber.
When you want, post a menu on the forum so we can give some feedback!
Best,
Molley
maro
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 6: 43 pm   Post subject:
Day 5
didnt had a headache at all.... was really busy at work so didnt even noticed.... [ / icon_lol. gif]
Sticking to the right food... i am going just great! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
now at the end of the day i feel a bit tired coz of work and the workout
but i know it will take time to adjust with my new routine...
molley my menu is finally for lunch leafy salad / raddish / cucumber with either boiled eggs or grilled fish
and dinner is meat... sometimes B. B. Q and sometimes cooked with cheese
but there is one thing i am feeling really thirsty all the time
i drank 5 glasses of water while exercising for 1 n 1 / 2 hr
and i actually drank 11 glasses today..... [ / icon_eek. gif]
[ / b]
InthePresent
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Stick together Jan 16, 2008 11: 24 pm   Post subject:
You ' re doing great Maro. Hey, drink as much water as your body tells you to. I ' m more thirsty on this diet also, so I probably max out at 10 glasses per day. Have you tried lemon juice in water? I use the bottled kind and it ' s so good. 2 tablespoons counts as 3 grams of carbs, if I remember correctly.
I look forward to seeing how much you ' re going to lose after 2 full weeks!!
desertbitch
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Thu Jan 17, 2008 4: 42 am   Post subject:
yay for joining the gym!
everyday I feel different. Horrible, great, down, up, headache. critical. WHo knows. O am also very very thirsty.
hang in!
maro
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Thu Jan 17, 2008 11: 32 am   Post subject:
InthePresentyeah i love lemon juice in water but i think i read in the book tht lemon juice restricts weight loss in atkins ( or something abt the citric acid )
but i am doing fine without it... [ / icon_smile. gif]
desertbitch i skipped gym yesterday [ / icon_mad. gif] i had great pain in my abs plus i had a really bad day
i know i shouldnt have done tht
but i did something crazy i downloaded a movie named hip hop abs and it was 30 mins workout i did it twice.... i actually enjoyed doing it.... and ofcourse i was terrible at tht.... [ / icon_razz. gif]
maro
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Thu Jan 17, 2008 6: 46 pm   Post subject:
DAY 7 finally completed my first week..... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i had loooooooooads of good food today! and i am feeling pretty good about tht.......... [ / icon_smile. gif]
breakfast i ate leftover chicken roast
and for lunch i made cheese omelet with few veggies not more then 10g carbs
and for the dinner finally i ate creamy chicken and mushrooms
and finally a great thing i weighed my self for the first time after a week.... here is an update to my stats
starting weight = 230 lbs
current weight = 217 lbs
[ / icon_arrow. gif] 13lbs down [ / icon_lol. gif]
Ginny_O
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Fri Jan 18, 2008 3: 31 am   Post subject:
Congratulations! That ' s a great first week.
looser
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Fri Jan 18, 2008 4: 28 pm   Post subject:
That is awsome! Congrats! I am bummed because I only lost 3lbs in my first week. [ / icon_sad. gif]
maro
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Fri Jan 18, 2008 6: 21 pm   Post subject:
thx Ginny_O
Looser.... i believe tht you will lose more weight in the next week and i am going to lose less
coz it happens.... i know this.... dont you dare give up [ / icon_evil. gif]
desertbitch
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Sun Jan 20, 2008 2: 57 am   Post subject:
You lost 13 pounds in a week? Holy sheeit. that is incredible. Good job. i am doubting, too.
looser
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Sun Jan 20, 2008 5: 19 am   Post subject:
Maro do you know if american cheese slices are acceptable during induction? I read about cheddar and mozarella everywhere bu not american. Just curious because I love american cheese!
thanks!
molley
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Sun Jan 20, 2008 11: 17 am   Post subject:
congratulations to you!
pheonixheart
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Sun Jan 20, 2008 5: 09 pm   Post subject:
WOW 13 lbs!!??? WOOHOOOOOOO!!! That ' s AMAZING!! Congratulations to you!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa
maro
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Sun Jan 20, 2008 6: 27 pm   Post subject:
desertbitch see i am working hard... [ / icon_cool. gif]
looser i have no idea wht american cheese is... but i am guessing tht it is known as cottage cheese or farmer ' s cheese ( or made from curd ) and i guess tht ' s not allowed
molley thx [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
pheonixheart thank you lisa, brightest blessings to you too [ / icon_smile. gif]
DAY 10 weekend the worst days for my diet - - - but i tried not to look beyond my induction food list, - - it was hard! [ / icon_sad. gif]
maro
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Mon Jan 21, 2008 12: 03 am   Post subject:
my day 11 is about to start i havent slept at all i had alot of work to do... [ / icon_sad. gif]
thinking of having a good breakfast to stop yawning in my office
DEVILED EGGS from Linda ' s low carb recipes... [ / icon_razz. gif] looks good rite!
maro
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Mon Jan 21, 2008 12: 27 pm   Post subject:
MY QUESTION
i am feeling not so good - - can i take ipecacuanha? [ / icon_redface. gif]
its been few days
beg225
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Mon Jan 21, 2008 4: 08 pm   Post subject:
You shouldn ' t need a senna... Have you been eating all your veggies???
maro
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Mon Jan 21, 2008 4: 25 pm   Post subject:
yes i have been eating my veggies - - - lettuce, raddish, cucumber
InthePresent
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Mon Jan 21, 2008 6: 50 pm   Post subject:
Congratulations Maro!!!! 13 pounds, what a great start! The Atkins Essentials book I own says maximum of 2 oz. of lemon juice is allowed on Induction but hey, whatever you ' re doing is WORKING!!
My book also says constipation is common, despite overkill on veggies and water. I think it ' s the protein or something. No matter. Two tablespoons of Flax seeds in water or sprinkled on salad helps too. Flax seed is so good for everything else too, including Omega 3, an fundamental fatty acid.
Thanks for the links on carb counters, I ' ll be using them. You must be so pumped for week two! Way to go.
maro
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Add Jan 23, 2008 11: 59 am   Post subject:
thx InthePresent
i am kinda low this week... i think coz of work... [ / icon_rolleyes. gif]
i cant sleep properly... i skipped gym too... [ / icon_sad. gif]
but i havent eaten anything other then things on the list.. tho i find my self starving in the middle of the day... it recurrently was a cola or candy time [ / icon_surprised. gif]
so i think even if i havent lost weight i would have maintained it after the first week
one more day and i am going to visit the scale
i hope it is happy with me
question hw long should i go on induction?
i still couldnt find those stix [ / icon_mad. gif]
julie61
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Incorporate Jan 23, 2008 3: 54 pm   Post subject:
Congratulations on your loss! I found my stix at Wal - Mart in the * * * * * * department in the passage that carries products for diabetics. They are called Ketone test strips and are made by ReliOn. They were around $7 for 50 stix. I also saw another brand at Walgreens behind the counter at the * * * * * *.
maro
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Incorporate Jan 23, 2008 5: 28 pm   Post subject:
NO WALMART in my country
I WAS SO GOOD IN MY GYM TODAY
felt like i was flying.... not really but still [ / icon_lol. gif]
hanadiverse
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 3: 01 am   Post subject: My first week on Atkins
First Congrats to Maro! 13 lbs wow! Hello everyone I am so happy I have found this forum online I feel I need some support to do this. I often start diets but quickly get frustrated when I do not see results. My goal is to lose 17lbs. I am 5 ' 3 and 149lbs. I started last Saturday. I have the feeling I ' ve had more than 20 carbs. I just found out that sugar free gum has 1 - 2 carbs per piece. I had 3 at work. I also had some sheese for snack. So when I add the cheese plus veggies plus my 3 sugar free gums, yes, it is more than 20. What do you do when you get hungry between the meals, besides drinking water? [ / icon_smile. gif]
desertbitch
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 3: 46 am   Post subject:
maro,
I JUST notices that you are in Pakistan. I wonderment if it is harder doing Atkins there?
I dont think you NEED the ketostix. You are in ketosis!
What kind of work do you do?
Anyway, so happy for you again!
jackie
maro
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 12: 24 pm   Post subject:
hanadiverse thx... i ofttimes eat a boiled egg or some cheese or just a teaspoon of mayo mixed with mustard ( mustard has no carbs )
desertbitch... it is hard doing atkins here as real food is all carbs... nothing is free of tht but nothing is easy in life too... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
and i am a 3D animator / glowing designer, currently i am working for chief upgrowth authority as an architectural visualizer [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
tho i wanted to be an architect.... but i studied arts more then science
and wht do you do?
desertbitch
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Fri Jan 25, 2008 5: 11 am   Post subject:
wow Maro,
Your work sounds really interesting and HARD!
Right now I am a housewife or a Stay At Home Mom=SAHM. I used to be a clothing designer and I owned my own little company. I primarily made childrens ' clothing. I sold my stuff all over the world. I am promising to start up again in a smaller way, but I need to make stuff!
I get a hard time doing Atkins in the US, do people question you about it in Pakistan? My mom cannot understand it at all.
ok. Keep up the GREAT work.
jackie
maro
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Fri Jan 25, 2008 9: 38 am   Post subject:
its a very known diet here in pakistan but most people do it for quick weight loss not as a lifestyle
as my frontage is the first thing tht shows weight loss people ask but i dont tell them tht i am doing low carb or atkins... coz i know they wont understand and i dont like giving lectures... i just say fresh vegies
but my first day of atkins i told everybody in my office... tht dont offer me anything i am off carbs... and they are still making fun of me... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i thought it would be easy for you guys as you get alot of things i dont...
or should i say its a Blessing in Hide tht i dont get all the protein shakes and atkin low carb bars etc
my mom did this back in 80 ' s and say it really worked... on the other hand my dad is totally anti diets ( all of them ), he thinks he knows alot [ / icon_twisted. gif] ( he is a doctor ) [ / icon_lol. gif]
you should start working coz it really gets ur mind of food... atleast it does to me
maro
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Sat Jan 26, 2008 6: 26 pm   Post subject:
i am on day 17 but didnt updated my stats after 2 weeks so here it goes...
After 2 weeks...
i have lost total of 13lbs..... which is good.... i have also lost 1 n 1 / 2 inches on my waist and hips [ / icon_lol. gif]
after being here i guess its nothing to worry everybody goes in stall phase i guess i ' ll start lossing again in 4th or 5th week..... rite?
i look a little different and i do feel my clothes are getting lose.... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
and i am certainly feeling alot better...
and yeah finally got ketostix.... and i am in ketosis ( its not too dark but its on the darker side ).... but tht means i am in ketosis... rite?
so wht should be my next step?... wht do you guys suggest me to do
move on with OWL or stick to induction?
i aint sick of induction... but i do need something to munch on ( nuts )
smerbear
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Sat Jan 26, 2008 8: 47 pm   Post subject:
Well you could move out of induction and into OWL without upping your carb intake... so you can at least add nuts. That way you can have your something crunchy but still lose weight faster as I believ you said you had quite a bit to lose. I recommend anyone with more than 50 lbs to lose to stay on induction longer but that is each person ' s choice. [ / icon_smile. gif]
Keep up the good work.
molley
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Sun Jan 27, 2008 1: 23 am   Post subject:
Stick to induction! You can add crunchiness by doing Lisa ' s pepperoni chips.
And the occasional nuts won ' t hurt, but if you ' re not tired of it, keep going!
Congrats on the inch and a half!!
desertbitch
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Sun Jan 27, 2008 6: 15 am   Post subject:
as you know, I am still inducting. [ / icon_smile. gif] I still think i have a lot to learn and need to lose faster like you. I am also afraid of getting cravings if I eat too much carbs.
I miss nuts, too.
maro
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Sun Jan 27, 2008 9: 04 am   Post subject:
so i reread the book
i have made up my mind
i am doing induction for this week too
but i am going to go up to 30g of carbs
coz i am in low metabolic resistant group
and i can go upto 40 - 60g per day on OWL
pepperoni chips..... [ / icon_biggrin. gif].... i am sure gonna try them
smerbear
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Sun Jan 27, 2008 1: 57 pm   Post subject:
Hi Maro,
Technically if you up your carbs you are now in OWL. Which is fine but you are only in induction if you are under 20 lbs and only eating the foods on the acceptable list.
Good Luck, we will be routing for you!
maro
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Sun Jan 27, 2008 6: 51 pm   Post subject:
smerbear wrote:
Hi Maro,
Technically if you up your carbs you are now in OWL. Which is fine but you are only in induction if you are under 20 lbs and only eating the foods on the acceptable list.
Good Luck, we will be routing for you!
thx smerbear....
i had peanuts today.... still figuring out the rite amount of tht to make 5g of carbs?... any idea?
Farmgirl
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Mon Jan 28, 2008 5: 44 pm   Post subject:
Wow maro, you are doing so great! I spend a great deal of time in Germany where there is food from both Pakistan and Turkey everywhere. The food is so good but also so full of carbs! My hat is off to you for being able to stick to this so well, last summer while 4 weeks in Germany I gained 7 lbs!
maro
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Mon Jan 28, 2008 6: 29 pm   Post subject:
thx farmgirl... i really appreciate tht
the hardest thing is to develop taste for atkins.... coz all of our food is carb, carb, carb
desertbitch
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 5: 02 am   Post subject:
what is a typical Pakistani meal? WHat are the carbs? I imagine fresh thin breads stuffed with aromatic savory meats.
maro
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 2: 46 pm   Post subject:
yes very aromatic spicy stuff either eaten with
rice
roti ( thin bread )
paratha ( thin bread fried with butter )
it can be stuffed as well with potato, meat, lentils, or vegies
my favs
gobi ke parathe ( cauliflour stuffed )
aloo ke parathe ( potato stuffed )
molli ke parathe ( radish stuffed )
nan ( peta bread ).... i used to eat like 2 nans at a time... tht is equal to 4 peta breads
puri ( its a deep fried thin bread )
heavenly.. usually our sunday breakfast was PURI HALWA ( sweet something i dont know wht its called in english ) CHANE ( chickpea curry )
tht is everyday carb but thts not where my carbs end.... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
sandwiches, burgers, chips, pasta, pizza.... ice cream, chocolate, candies,
i think i should stop here or else i ' ll start crying....
here you go some pics
CENSORED
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Farmgirl
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 3: 55 pm   Post subject:
Ok, that was just mean!! Do you want me to jump on the next flight to pakistan just so I can pig out??? Man that looks good!!!!
bluehex
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 5: 23 pm   Post subject:
Hmm, I wouldn ' t say it was mean....
I ' d say it was outright CRUEL!!!!!
OMG, I ' m drooling... I ' d better go get a bucket....
[ / icon_lol. gif] [ / icon_lol. gif] [ / icon_lol. gif]
maro
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 6: 20 pm   Post subject:
yeah when i get up i smell paratha ' s made for breakfast in my house or even neighbors.... [ / icon_eek. gif]
where ever i go i smell food.... [ / icon_cry. gif]
lamd98
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 7: 56 pm   Post subject:
Those pictures looked so delicious, what are the white fluffy things in the bottom picture?
Are there any dishes you could adapt to be Atkins friendly, like the cauliflower stuffed one?
Maro, I think you have done marvelous and you should be very proud of yourself!
maro
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 8: 23 pm   Post subject:
lamd98
tht white fluffy thing is PURI
dough made of white flour, and ghee ( oil ) and rolled out and deep fried till fluffy
and i just googled it Halwa is SEMOLINA PUDDING
i dont know if we can adopt these things as low carb... i havent tried yet
Farmgirl you can come to pakistan anytime and i promise tht i will get you all the best food of Pakistan..... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
desertbitch
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 3: 11 am   Post subject:
Get ready, I am going to come and gain all my weight back.
Those pictures were TOO MUCH!!!!! I am drooling!
I knew it was hard for you. Smelling all those gorgeous foods!
You are doing SO great!
preet
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 6: 17 am   Post subject:
Now you guys understand how difficult it is to switch to atkins with the Asian cuisine all around you. I have to make this food for husband and son and resist eating it. Thanks Maro for enlightening everyone.
Our typical meal is some form carbohydrate with non - veg and vegetables. Followed by a sweet. Dishes are made to consume more carbohydrates!! A typical Indian lunch would have 3 - 4 dishes to go with your rice or Roti ( bread ).
I wish we could have a lot more ' atkins - friendly indian recipes '. I follow the atkins to the core during induction.. slowly bring it other dishes later.
This time i have lost just 6 pounds in 2 weeks and yesterday i indulged. Now back to the diet hoping i would lose 10 more in the next 2 weeks.
artinformation
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 9: 31 am   Post subject:
Congrat Maro on your 13lbs lose. That is wonderful. I know what you mean about rice carbs and so forth. My favorate foods are Pakistani, Indian, Thai, Afghan and sushi. One thing all the above foods have in common are lots of rice and bread. I used to eat the above food 90 percent of the time. I know the hardest part of this way of life will be giving up rice and the exotic breads but we must. So hang in there and good luck
maro
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 3: 46 pm   Post subject:
thx preet, artinformation.... [ / icon_smile. gif]
being here i always wondered wht ppl thought abt our food.... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i wonder wht will happen to these ppl if they really come here
and eat a simple daily menu
breakfast:
NIHARI PAI with NAN or HALWA PURI
Peree wali lassi ( its a sweet drink made of yogurt, and KHUYA )
Lunch:
sarson ka saag, Makki Ki Roti ( maize flat bread ) and a dollop of fresh butter
Sweet dish is kheer Badami in Thuthis
Dinner:
chicken tikka
seekh kebab
chicken karahi
Biryani
sweet dish is gajjar ka halwa ( carrot halwa )
or kulfi faluda ( our version of pure icecream )
maro
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 4: 05 pm   Post subject: stresssed out
ok so my update
i am on day 20
i have been eating right but i have missed workout for 2 days
i am going to weigh myself tomorrow ( end of 3rd week )... i hope to see couple of pounds off...
* fingers crossed *
things are going well both on diet and otherwise
i got a new job i am going to start from 1st feb... but its my second job
i dont know wht will happen to my diet if i do 2 jobs at a time
both are not near my home so i have to figure out some way to work this out
or else i ' ll be eating carbs...
yaz180
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 12: 02 am   Post subject:
hey maro!
it must be easy in pk in dat its so cheap to get grilled and bbq food for so cheap!? right? ok well i know anyting is cheaper than in uk. lol.
i had no idea it was a fashion fad there. do people actually follow atkins properly though?
maro
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 10: 49 am   Post subject:
yaz180 earning in pounds and spending in ruppees makes it cheap
but its not cheap if you are earning in ruppees
i havent got any bbq food for 3 weeks of atkins and i am going to have tht today for dinner just to confirm its cheap or not
maro
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 7: 30 pm   Post subject:
ok so 3 weeks gone
starting weight = 230 lbs
current weight = 213 lbs
lost first week 13 lbs
lost second week 0 lbs
lost third week 4lbs
total loss = 17 lbs [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i hope i will lose 3 lbs in forth week to round it of to 20lbs loss in first month
yaz180
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 7: 52 pm   Post subject:
whoah!
thats AMAZING MARO
WELL DONE!
could you post a sample of your menu so I can learn from it / get some ideas?
bluehex
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 7: 58 pm   Post subject:
Congratulations, Maro! Great job!
maro
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 8: 39 pm   Post subject:
thx bluehex [ / icon_smile. gif]
yaz180 my today ' s menu is
breakfast:
3 deviled eggs ( recipe is from site genaw )
lunch:
2 cucumbers with 2 cups of turnips ( just cooked with garlic n ginger salt and red chilli flakes )
dinner:
on ur personal request i had 2 chicken tikkas [ / icon_wink. gif]
but usually i eat stir fry chicken n vegies i either add cheese or cream to it
during the day i ate
few almonds,
almost 2 tbs of peanut butter
3 ltrs of water
few sugerfree chewing gums
1 can diet cola
maro
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7: 54 pm   Post subject:
from the past few days i have been feeling unusally sleepy but only at night
like my eyes are about to shut rite now its only 1 am and i sleep more then 9 hrs now [ / icon_twisted. gif]
i dont get up on alarm [ / icon_mad. gif]
i am late for office everyday [ / icon_confused. gif]
i never used to sleep tht much... only 6 hrs@max
but i would say tht even i do get up 2 or 3 times from my sleep {water side effects}... otherwise i am sleeping really peacefully
ok here i go again [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
sweet dreams everyone [ / icon_wink. gif]
artinformation
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 10: 15 pm   Post subject:
Congrat Maro on the your weight lose. 17lbs is wonderful. I also hope that you wil reach your 20lb lose by end of your first month on this diet. But even if you don ' t 17 lbs is still a very impressive amount. Now this sleep thing I have no idea why you are sleeping so much. I seem to do the opposite these days and I sleep much less than usual. Maybe you are tired from your exercise and your body needs the extra few hours? Today it was so funny I felt like I was stalking you. As soon as I went to a site and posted a reply I would see your post right before my post or after it. Kind of funny - - -
maro
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 10: 42 am   Post subject:
artinformation wrote:
Today it was so funny I felt like I was stalking you. As soon as I went to a site and posted a reply I would see your post right before my post or after it. Kind of funny - - -
yeah funny, probably we were online at the same time... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
sleeping thing can be coz of work and exercise... or coz of winter cold
but i love sleeping...
i am going to start sleeping earlier from today...
maro
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 5: 05 pm   Post subject:
been off track lately.... was crazy to do tht but i did and i have no regrets [ / icon_lol. gif] {unlike most of ppl have after getting off track}
it was odd eating normally though
weekends are usually hard on me... specially when its someones birthday or hangout with frds
oh and yeah it was a long weekend... 4 days off
back on induction day 1.... 6th feb
artinformation
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 11: 47 pm   Post subject:
Maro
The important thing is that you are back on the wagon. What happened to me last time was that after cheating a day or 2, I actually lost weight when I got back on plan. I guess I was kind of shocking my body. Good luck and I know that you can do it. Next Saturday I am invited to 2 parties and I am stressing about it alreay - - - - -
yaz180
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 4: 34 pm   Post subject:
ah i know! i have a party to go to tomorro night to celebrate chinese new year and today i just had to txt my friend saying i ' ll bring my own food, and i may not stay long bcz there ' ll be about 40 people there surrounding me and munching away at yummy foods and it ' s hard enough to stay away from foods in the kitchen, but then to have to go to a party where the focus of socialising is witth food in your hand, it ' s tooo much for me to handle.
also theres a couple of really annoying girls who insist on creating a huge hullabuloo to find out i ' m still on atkins and spreading it through out the room so each and every guest can take their turns at regurgitating some fashionable low fat propaganda. I ' m going to snap if i hear it tomorrow, I ' m going armed with lots of info and comebacks. [ / icon_mad. gif]
why can ' t people just be supportive of their friend ' s choices. I know they don ' t lecture me bcz they care. they ' re lecturing me to show everyone they know about ' good nutrition '.
yaz180
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 4: 35 pm   Post subject:
ps thanks for your sample menu maro! [ / icon_smile. gif]
maro
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 8: 17 pm   Post subject:
artinformation, yaz180 thx for supporting me...
yaz180 i completely understand when evrybody tries to impose their opinion of good nutrition... tht ' s annoying... and discouraging
but remember tht we are all here to support you... [ / icon_smile. gif]
good news i hav only gained 1lb for the last slip up...
i hope i can get it even this week...
getting back on induction was good decision for me...
i am already in ketosis after 1 day
looking forward and forward to these 2 weeks i plan to be completely honest with nobody except myself... [ / icon_smile. gif]... coz all my decisions effect my life rather then anybody elses...
clutterbunny
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 11: 16 pm   Post subject:
Good for you maro!!
I told my doctor about it yesterday... and got the lecture. She says don ' t cut out carbs completely... brown rice and beans, potato with beans and salsa... I want to do what she says... but I just CAN ' T.
Not sure if I feel guilty about it or not...
[ / icon_wink. gif]
desertbitch
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Thu Feb 07, 2008 4: 11 am   Post subject:
Hi Maro,
always glad to read what your up to. I am still plugging along slowly.
Ginny_O
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Thu Feb 07, 2008 4: 58 pm   Post subject:
Clutterbunny - you aren ' t cutting out carbs completely, that ' s what people who don ' t know Atkins don ' t understand. You are eating carbs, but healthy ones, mostly vegetables. After you ' ve lost some weight, you ' ll add in more carbs - more veggies and some fruit. Later still you ' ll add in whole grains. This is not a diet that eliminates all carbs just one that gets rid of the unhealthy carbs ( white flour and sugar ).
yaz180
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 3: 03 pm   Post subject:
maroooo update us girl
how are you doinggg?!! [ / icon_smile. gif]
maro
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9: 08 pm   Post subject:
i am here yaz180 - - - was just waiting for a month to end to update on 11th feb
i have been good since the last weekend... [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i am feeling ok... i am again too busy no time to think of food
and tht good coz everytime i am free i watch TV or go out with frds... i get in trouble... [ / icon_confused. gif]
going to gym regularly.... not checked my weight... 2 days more
i wanna see some good results [ / icon_lol. gif]
grnthmbfinnie
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 5: 48 pm   Post subject:
Maro I was just reading your posts and I was encouraged to hear that you started loosing again in the third week. Tomorrow is the end of week two for me on Induction and I lost 12lbs the first week and nothing this week... Maybe week three with be good for me too! Thanks for posting.. can ' t wait to hear more progress.
Thank you to everyone for all your posts and great advise.
maro
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 10: 37 pm   Post subject:
hey grnthmbfinnie... yes third week will definitly be good
my progress thread is here..
http: / / lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewtopic. php? t=13287

2008-11-06T02:00:00.016-08:00

USA based site
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miffin
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 8: 43 am   Post subject: USA based site
I was just wondering if this is just a USA based site. The reason being is that I have put on around 6 posts of veritable query ' s and I have not managed to get even one reply!! I am in the UK and it has made me think.
Brian
ildanoch
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 11: 36 am   Post subject:
This is an internet based site [ / icon_smile. gif] I believe the majority of the posters are from the US but we have multifarious people from the UK and beyond.
As for your lack of response. I only see 3 posts you havent got a response on ( and one of those was a repeat post ). One about protein powders and one about your quiche sticking.
Did you consider that maybe nobody had a response? Personally, I have no clue about the quiche sticking as I ' ve never made it. I also don ' t have a protein powder to recommend. I saw no reason to post negative info.
Also, have you tried searching for your answers? 99. 9999999 % of the posts lately are posts that could have been chewed answered if someone had taken the time to search this forum or google.
Generally we don ' t mind answering questions and we definately want to support people in their lifestyle change. However, sometimes we are busy in our own lives and don ' t have time or energy.
I ' m sorry if I sound disagreeing, blame the sugar feast as I was very very bad yesterday. Halloween candy dishes loaded with chocolate bars should be unlawful at the office!!!
Deborah sw237 cw162 ( I hope ) gw145
miffin
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 3: 23 pm   Post subject:
Well your reply does sound a tad aggresive. Hope you can do better on the diet today. Nobody replied to my progress post either. I notice some people put progress reports on and get loads of encouragment. I did do some searches but I either got no info or conflicting info, so I was hoping for a straight reply. I must just live with it I suppose, the fact that I cannot have the same charisma as most.
Brian
pheonixheart
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 6: 54 pm   Post subject:
Personally, I don ' t know beans about protein powders myself or I ' d have been happy to respond - it ' s quite likely that ' s the case for others too.
Also, you may wish to post things in the appropriate forums - if you had posted the question in the recipes forum since it was asking about the powders mentioned in recipes, you may have gotten responses because not everyone visits all the forums every day.
If nobody responds to you, please try not to take it personally. It ' s not about you hun - there ' s more than likely an explanation that has nothing to do with you or with the fact that a lot of the posters happen to reside in the USA. We have folks all over the world that post on the site - if it ' s a question that can be answered, it will be. [ / icon_wink. gif].
miffin
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 7: 08 pm   Post subject:
OK thanks. I did post it in the recipe forum too though. I understand that not all people use them but I have managed to find out quite a bit now and have actually bought some.
Thanks Again.
Brian

2008-11-06T02:00:00.014-08:00

Fast Ketosis
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BeTheB
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 1: 47 pm   Post subject: Fast Ketosis
Hi, I ' m on my second day of Atkins now, and I just bought Ketostix. I decided to test them, quick-witted it ' s probably too soon to be in Ketosis, but to my huge surprise it rotten a shade of pink. Does anyone know if it ' s possible to be in dietary ketosis so soon, or should I be worried about diabetes?
bluehex
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 3: 35 pm   Post subject:
Yes, it is possible. Maybe you had very little glycogen stored. Not frequent, but IMHO possible.
If you are worried, what I would do is have three - four days on high sugar - sodas, juices, pastries, you name it - and then test. If you still show positive, go to a doctor.
BeTheB
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 6: 29 pm   Post subject:
Well, I had been eating kind of high - fat, medium - sugar the days before, and véry low - carb yesterday, so that might explain... Just tested again, and it was a much darker shade of purple than it was earlier, so I do think it ' s dietary ketosis kicking in... I also feel a lot less nauseous than I did earlier today and yesterday, so now I ' m fairly confident it ' s just the diet starting to work.
Thanks anyway!

2008-11-06T02:00:00.012-08:00

umm. so Splenda ' s main ingredient is MALTODEXTRIN
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yaz180
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 1: 52 pm   Post subject: umm. so Splenda ' s main ingredient is MALTODEXTRIN
ok so i fashion in an collectible box of Spenda and eagerly use 2 tsp a day in my food, only to find out that the Splenda ( in uk at least ) has a lot of maltodextrin in it and then I look it up on the net and:
' The danger is that maltodextrin has an inordinately high glycemic index of 105. This is 5 points higher than glucose which is 100. And, it is almost double that of nutrition sugar which is around 59. '
* thinks * isn ' t this is vey repugnant during induction? High Warrior... sugar levels peaking....? Why would Dr Atkins recommend this sweetner?
DJJayito
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 7: 27 pm   Post subject:
The way around this is to purchase LIQUID sucralose ( which I have never seen ), but the liquid form of sucralose doesn ' t hold any fillers, but it measures by the drop, not the teaspoon, or something along those produce? The maltodextin ( sp ) is a lining to turn sucralose into something you can measure - like sugar.
inittoloseit
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Leash Feb 06, 2008 3: 57 pm   Post subject:
If this is the case for aspertame as well it would explain why people don ' t lose weight or stall while on induction and drinking diet cola or diet rite.
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Lump together Feb 06, 2008 5: 17 pm   Post subject: ASPARTAME TOXICITY REPORT
inittoloseit wrote:
If this is the case for aspertame as well it would explain why people don ' t lose weight or stall while on induction and drinking diet cola or diet rite.
I don ' t know the facts behind the safe - ness of Splenda, but I do know they had medical proof that aspartame sweet sodas - in the long run - are actually BAD for diebetics. They stated that in the long spurt, nutra sweet can cause swings in blood sugar levels, as well as weight gain.
maro
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Fasten Feb 06, 2008 7: 47 pm   Post subject:
i think all artificially created products are harmful for health in general...
so good thing is to stick to organic and natural food products... [ / icon_smile. gif]
DJJayito
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Interlace Feb 06, 2008 7: 53 pm   Post subject:
maro wrote:
i think all artificially created products are harmful for health in general...
so good thing is to stick to organic and natural food products... [ / icon_smile. gif]
I so sign with this statement. I ' m in the group of people who ( 1 ) feel man made products are typically harmful and healthy. That being said ( 2 ) I also feel that I won ' t stop eating something until it ' s proven to be hugely unhealthy, like Nutra Sweet.
maro
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Cement Feb 06, 2008 8: 02 pm   Post subject:
somehow i cannot develop taste for artificial sweetners
i made an icecream from linda ' s recipes as thts my biggest weakness
but i could just take it more then 1 spoon.. maybe coz its too much of cream or just the fake taste of sweetners
DJJayito
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 8: 08 pm   Post subject:
maro wrote:
somehow i cannot develop taste for artificial sweetners
i made an icecream from linda ' s recipes as thts my biggest weakness
but i could just take it more then 1 spoon.. maybe coz its too much of cream or just the fake taste of sweetners
There are natural - no carb sweeteners. I believe one is called ki - sweet. It ' s made from kiwis. I tried that one once, but didn ' t care for it, and it was expensive.
inittoloseit
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 4: 55 pm   Post subject:
I saw a news spot on TV about this the other day and thought I would share...
( Since I am unable to post links to other websites in this forum I am going to post part of the article )
From ABC News...
"
Calorie - conscious consumers who opt for diet sodas may gain more weight than if they drank sugary drinks because of artificial sweeteners contained in the diet sodas, according to a new study.
Story
Saccharine Making Us Fat? Aw, Rats!
A Purdue University study released Sunday in the journal Behavioral Neuroscience reported that rats on diets containing the artificial sweetener saccharin gained more weight than rats given sugary food, casting doubt on the benefits of low - calorie sweeteners.
" There ' s something about diet foods that changes your metabolic limit, your brain chemistry, " said ABC News ' medical contributor Dr. Marie Savard.
Though Savard said more research needs to be done to uncover more information, the study does hint at the idea that the sweeteners alter a person ' s metabolism.
Savard said another recent study, which included more than 18, 000 people, found healthy adults who consumed at least one diet drink a day could increase their chance for weight gain.
In the Purdue study, the rats whose diets contained artificial sweeteners appeared to experience a physiological connection between sweet tastes and calories, which drove them to overeat.
" The taste buds taste sweet, but there ' s no calorie load that comes with it. There ' s a mismatch here. It seems it changes your brain chemistry in some way, " Savard said. " Anything you put in your mouth, your body has a strong reaction to it. It ' s much more than counting calories. It seems normally with sweet foods that we rev up our metabolism. "
The information may come as a surprise to the 59 percent of Americans who consume diet soft drinks, making them the the second - most - popular low - calorie, sugar - free products in the nation, according to a consumer survey from the Calorie Control Council, a nonprofit association that represents the low - calorie and reduced - fat food and beverage industry.
Because so many foods today contain artificial sweeteners, the study results may go beyond diet drinks.
" The truth is, we ' re putting artificial sweetener in so many different things in water, in yogurt, " Savard said. It ' s unclear if the results only adhere to diet sodas, she said.
"
bluehex
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 5: 20 pm   Post subject:
The full article, with the link, has been posted here:
http: / / lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewtopic. php? t=13295
Dawn125
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Sat Feb 16, 2008 3: 31 pm   Post subject:
For those of you who would like a no carb version of splenda try Fiberfit by ( I think ) Nutragenics. I get mine from Netrition. com but other suppiers carry it. It is basically sucralose and fiber. They use fiber instead of maltodextrin so there are no " net " carbs. I have only found the liquid but they do make a powdered form as well. Beware, the stuff is not cheap.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.010-08:00

Need the book?
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karenjs
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 8: 16 pm   Post subject: Need the book?
I have an extra copy of Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution I ' d like to give away. If you ' re new to Atkins and haven ' t read the book and can ' t afford to buy it, please email me and I ' ll mail it to you for free.
[The book has been claimed. But you can get a used copy from Amazon or Powells bookstore online. ]
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pheonixheart
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 11: 03 pm   Post subject:
awww that ' s so amazingly sweet of you! I don ' t need it but think it ' s a very wonderful gesture!!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa
yaz180
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Sat Feb 16, 2008 3: 34 pm   Post subject:
i just got da book this morning.
dr atkins seeems like a nice dude [ / icon_smile. gif]
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Sat Feb 16, 2008 6: 14 pm   Post subject:
nice dude [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
i call him atkin BABA JI
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Sun Feb 17, 2008 1: 59 pm   Post subject:
lol

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hardest part of the diet?
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gibsonman
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 7: 49 am   Post subject: hardest part of the diet?
just curious as to what people think is the hardest thing about atkins, adjsuting to and changing your lifestyle, etc... i personally think the hardest part is beverages. if milk was aloud, this would be a total breeze in my opinnion. i love meats and veggies and cheeses. i ' ve found the carby things i love are repeatedly only good because of the non - carb things you put on them like butter, sour cream, for potatoes, pasta is only good because of the sauce, etc.
i work in an italian restaurant that is pretty tough. we are aloud free sodas, soup and salad. i drink SOOOO much water there. I just constantly am filling up my to go cup and drinking water water water. I probably drink well over 100 ounces a day. for my shift meal I just get tilapia or salmon or shrimp or chicken then some saut ' ed spinach and put some red pepper on it
i ' ve been cooking for myself alot as well, but to get back to what i said, i think drinks are the hardest part. i dislike diet beverages very much and i hear it stalls some people and i don ' t even want to take that chance so i just stay away.
pinkprincess
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 12: 11 pm   Post subject:
The hardest part for me is no bread I love eating anything in a sandwich especially on white soft bread
goonernumber1
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 12: 18 pm   Post subject:
For me I would say it was the beverages and chocolate, oh and pastries.
I ' ve found that a nice cold can od diet coke with crimson every once in a while as a treat can fill a rather large hole.
Takes care of my sweet tooth as well!
catsandtrees
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 2: 06 pm   Post subject:
b r e a d! I used to eat 4 slices for breakfast and if I was still hungry maybe another 3!
Oh how I miss bread... and milk and cereal as well. Oh and crisps.
Dont miss sweet stuff as never used to eat much anyway. Did not drink alcohol so that makes it easier for me I suppose.
I am not really craving anything at the moment but I feel abit greasy. I think it ' s because I am frying meat instead of grilling it like I used to.
Chantel SW 188 CW 184 GW 147 10 days into induction, next weigh in Aug 23rd.
Reasonableness
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 2: 57 pm   Post subject:
Beer and taco bell.. it ' s been 146 days, i ' ve lost 91 lbs, but i realy miss a burritto and budweiser.. [ / icon_confused. gif]
catsandtrees
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 3: 05 pm   Post subject:
Hearing wrote:
Beer and taco bell.. it ' s been 146 days, i ' ve lost 91 lbs, but i realy miss a burritto and budweiser.. [ / icon_confused. gif]
Wow, that is amazing. Well done you.
[ / icon_eek. gif]
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 4: 25 pm   Post subject: miss stuff
I will have my sporadic light beer, but I do really miss milk too. And sauces - I love a good curry, but most of the good pre - packaged curry sauces have a lot of carbs in them.
Miss sharing the pancakes I make for my kids.
coralie
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Knit Aug 22, 2007 7: 35 pm   Post subject:
Proper coffee with milk, from a cattle udder, not a soya bean! - not enjoying cream in my coffee either.
hants
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 3: 50 pm   Post subject:
Not being able to eat bread and missing the convenience of cereal for breakfast are the toughest for me.
ildanoch
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 5: 07 pm   Post subject:
I miss bread
I hate having to constantly buy new clothes [ / icon_twisted. gif]
Deborah sw237 cw 173 gw 145
lamd98
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 7: 01 pm   Post subject:
I miss eating Dutch black licorice and I mean a WHOLE bag!
Pipi
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Thu Sep 06, 2007 3: 24 pm   Post subject:
Hardest part is " no carbs ".... plain as that. [ / icon_smile. gif]
ildanoch
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Thu Sep 06, 2007 7: 21 pm   Post subject:
not supposed to have " no carbs "
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Pipi
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Tue Sep 18, 2007 4: 24 pm   Post subject:
Well, then... I love to eat cereal with low fat fruit yogurt and some fruits in it. I miss fruit the most. I love bread too, but, I do not eat much bread anyway as I was always watching what I eat. Oh yes, and I miss popcorn too. I replaced often my meals with low fat popcorn. So, I would say cereal, yogurt, fruit and popcorn.
I never ate much rubbish food. I do not have any chips, instant food, sweets or anything like that in my house. I cook every day, often vegetables with some lean meat, or pasta and I am trying to impart my kids healthy food habits.
pheonixheart
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Tue Sep 18, 2007 6: 41 pm   Post subject:
The hardest thing for me is not being able to be on it!!!
Right now it ' s because of the equivalent - distilled crud is so much cheaper! I ' ve been off Atkins for a couple years and have put on all the weight I lost & then some [ / icon_cry. gif] Sometimes we only have about $70 to feed a family of 4 for 2 weeks. Atkins doesn ' t fit well into that plan [ / icon_eek. gif] [ / icon_evil. gif] [ / icon_rolleyes. gif].
I ' d rather be missing fruit slushies or something!! [ / icon_lol. gif]
Hopefully we ' ll be in a better situation so that I can hop back on later this year or at least in January!!
Coralie - try heavy cream in your coffee - it ' s WAY delicious and low - carb and so creamy and rich!! I used to have a tablespoon ( sometimes 2 if i splurged ) in my coffee occasionally and it more than made up for no milk!
Nina
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Sun Sep 23, 2007 5: 35 am   Post subject:
The harderst part of this diet for me is getting relatives to understand that no means no... if you know I am on Atkins, please don ' t offer me carb - loaded dishes inorder to tempt me and watch me give in and make you feel as though you have been proven to be right about the Atkins woe being unhealthy, when in reality you are not, since what you are offering me is simple carbs, UGH! [ / icon_mad. gif] All that to say that finding support is the hardest part of this diet even though I have lost 13lbs so far...
By the way, I also miss Häagen - Dazs® strawberry icecream with pound cake... which I can now speak / write about with out my mouth watering... YAY!
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KHOLOBAR
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 4: 40 am   Post subject:
ben and jerrys stawberry cheesecake ice cream the whole pint I miss.
CrystalAnn777
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 3: 53 am   Post subject:
The hardest part for me is no wine or champagne.... [ / icon_sad. gif]
I ' ve been a wine person all my adult life, and some of my non - adult life, lol.
AUZTRALIKA13
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 2: 40 pm   Post subject:
DEFINITELY THE HARDEST PART IS NO COFFEE WITH MILK AND COOKIES
Fiona
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 3: 51 pm   Post subject:
I can live without sweets or bread but I cannot live without diet soda, and sometimesa little rum. That ' s the hard part for me.
Miss_lirpa
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 6: 02 pm   Post subject:
heh.. I would love having to constantly buy new clothes!! If people are having trouble with this I forsee one of my problems as having enough money to buy those new clothes!
rae
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 9: 12 pm   Post subject:
I miss mindless snacking on chips & popcorn when I ' m watching tv at night. Meat, raw veggies, eggs or cheese just don ' t do it.
Fiona
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Sat Oct 20, 2007 12: 55 am   Post subject:
Try pork rinds, yesterday I bought some with chili and are great while watching TV and have 0 carbs, later on the diet we may have a cup of popcorn. Chicken wings for those football sundays are also Atkins perfect.
Tara77
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Sat Oct 20, 2007 1: 15 am   Post subject:
Hardest part for me is family get togethers... someone always baking a pie or cake,, casaroles ect. I don ' t want to say no cause I hate to offend anyone I usually put a little of everything on my plate and rave how good it is though i dont even taste it [ / icon_confused. gif] though the thing i miss the most is my pasta!!!!!!!!!!!! the lowcarb stuff to me just doesnt taste the saem [ / icon_cry. gif]
rae
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Sat Oct 20, 2007 3: 44 pm   Post subject:
Tara77 have you tried Dreamfields Pasta? It ' s low carb and I can ' t tell the difference
billyradio
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 5: 24 pm   Post subject: Hardest part of the diet
POPCORN! POPCORN! POPCORN! POPCORN! POPCORN!
Tara77
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 1: 07 am   Post subject:
rae no i havn ' t tried that where can you buy it?
miffin
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 8: 54 am   Post subject:
Real Ale. Like Inspector Morse drinks!
rae
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 12: 52 pm   Post subject:
I get Dreemfields pasta at my local grocery store. It ' s in the regular pasta section. It comes in all types, elbows, penne, lingunie, etc. The box states that it has:
Total Carbs: 42
Controlled Carbs: - 37
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Digestible Carbs 5
You can vist their web site at www DreamfieldsFoods com to read more and I think you can also order from there.
I don ' t eat it very often and haven ' t eaten it at all during induction. It seems to good to be true, but when I not doing induction anymore and really want some pasta, it ' s the only pasta I ' ll eat.
Fiona
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 12: 22 am   Post subject:
Can somebody explain me this??
Total Carbs: 42
Controlled Carbs: - 37
_____
Digestible Carbs 5
What does these controlled, total and digestible carbs mean?? I mean, at the end how many carbs should we count in a portion?
ilovenick
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 8: 34 pm   Post subject:
I really miss sweet, yeast rolls, some desserts and McD ' s French Fries
Justice
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 9: 57 pm   Post subject:
I really miss hanging out under the bleachers in high school with my girlfriend trying to get..... oh wrong forum....... okay, i miss taco bell and budweiser.. [ / icon_cool. gif].
Tara77
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 2: 01 am   Post subject:
hahahaha justice sorry had to laugh miss the old times too!!!!!!!!
oOo_Time2Diet_oOo
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 6: 54 pm   Post subject: Hey
the hardest thing for me is... the price! I am a student so i normally have to make do with microwave ready meals or tinned, packaged food. All this MEAT is so expensive.
But apart from that i miss CHOCOLATE, POTATOES, & DRINKS.
PeteTheAcousticGuy
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 7: 52 pm   Post subject: Re: Hey
oOo_Time2Diet_oOo wrote:
the hardest thing for me is... the price! I am a student so i normally have to make do with microwave ready meals or tinned, packaged food. All this MEAT is so expensive.
But apart from that i miss CHOCOLATE, POTATOES, & DRINKS.
Where do you go to school? Cuz I ' ll tell ya one thing, if you go away to school, that cafeteria food sucks and is definitely not healthy for you!
afterthought9
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 9: 16 pm   Post subject:
the hardest part for me is accepting that while keeping to a diet like this i ' m not actually hungry and not really craving the chocolate bars dancing about my head like fearies on acid!!! i ' ve eaten junk food and anything else i wanted for so long it ' s hard to keep to this, even though i don ' t crave the junk now. make sense?

2008-11-06T02:00:00.007-08:00

to - morrow is my first day
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nebula7766s
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Sun Oct 28, 2007 11: 43 pm   Post subject: to - morrow is my first day
Hi everyone, happy to meet you all. Need your help for my first day...
Bought everything i needed but i ' m not too sure of portions.
Planing on having a cheese omelet for breakfast.... lunch a salad with salmon and for supper a slice of roast beef with vegetables.
Does that sound ok? [ / icon_smile. gif]
bushpig
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 4: 55 am   Post subject:
hi there.
that sounds good to me, just go easy on the veg and pile on the meat [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
pheonixheart
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 4: 26 am   Post subject:
Hiya and Welcome!! Good luck to you! Sounds good - always make sure you ' re getting your veggies but be sure that 2 out of the 3 cups that you get on induction are salad greens [ / icon_wink. gif].
Here are a couple VERY helpful induction links [ / icon_biggrin. gif] [ / icon_biggrin. gif] [ / icon_biggrin. gif] [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
http: / / www. lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewtopic. php? t=10970
http: / / lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewtopic. php? t=10971
Read those and you ' ll have your answers!! Also i STRONGLY recommend to check out all the posts in the FAQ ' s forum, located here:
http: / / www. lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewforum. php? f=8
The post on the importance of water is awesome and might just blow your mind [ / icon_wink. gif]. Drink lots o water! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
Blessings,
Lisa

2008-11-06T02:00:00.006-08:00

First month over and great results!
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zookerman182
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 8: 15 am Post subject: First month over and great results!
Ok well on october 14th i posted about my progress so far and i will contain everything i posted at the bottom of this post if people want to go back and read it. It is now the end of my 31st day on this diet and my starting weight before i went so sleep on september 30th was 290. 2. Tonight before i go to sleep my current weight is 257. 8. I lost 20 lbs in the first 14 days and in the last 17 days i have lost another 12. 2. I have kept up with my ambulatory a mile per day and have stuck to the strict diet. I made some jerky in the dehydrator out of beef stew meat and have been eating that with a serving size portain of cashews and pistachios per day about 8 times / day to keep my metabolism up. Those 8 times of course are in between meals. I have stuck to drinking 6 - 8 liters of water per day and my skin is still in tip top shape. I have tons of energy and i am alot more bendable now. I had to buy a new belt and the frame weight on my workout shorts come in handy now. I just wanted to share again my progress and how successful you can be if you stick to this way of life and excercise. My goal of 225 - 230 by christmas is looking like its possible. I will be sure to post again on november 15th with another halfs month results.
( My previous post on October 14th )
I have been on this diet for 14 days after tonight and i am having terrific results. My starting weight was 290 and i am right around 270 before i go to bed at night. I walk just a little over a mile per day on a local outdoor trail and i walk it in about 35 minutes. I drink between 7 and 8 liters of water per day and can see amazing results in my skin and i also have much more engergy. I am a cook at a local sports bar which is a double edged sword. I have all the salads / grilled chicken / steak / chicken wings, etc. at my taking but i also have to try and not eat all of the fried foods i cook for the customers night in and night out ( cheese fries / sub sandwiches / baked potatos / chips and salsa, etc. ). I have stuck to my guns and the addictive foods i used to eat day in and day out do not tempt me anymore. I eat 20 or under grams of carbs per day and i eat 5 - 7 times per day. My clothes are getting looser and my hopes are becoming higher. My goal is to get to 200 lbs which is a good weight for my body type. I am also getting married in july and it would be great to be in tip top shape for that and for the people who havent seen me in years ( Ive always been very heavy ). Just wanted to share my experience so far with all of you and i hope this helps some of you who are attempting this type of lifestyle.
zookerman182
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Thu Nov 01, 2007 8: 20 am Post subject:
i forgot to mention that i stretch the serving size daily portions of nuts out all day which means i am allowed 49 pistachios for 8 grams and 21 cashwes for 8 grams for the entire day so eight times i day i eat one small piece of jerky and roughly 3 cashwes and 6 pistachios. This i have found keeps my energy up and helps burn fat!

2008-11-06T02:00:00.005-08:00

Burning stomach - food suggestions
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picturegrl
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 2: 03 pm   Post subject: Burning stomach - food suggestions
I ' ve lost 60 pounds on Atkins and am coming back after a brief ( and disastrous ) bout with Kimkins and Proficient Cleanse. In short, I lost weight and then binged like crazy when my resolve finally broke. I stopped it at a 10 - pound gain though, and I ' m five down again in Induction.
Here ' s my question: my stomach has been burning something fierce for the past few days. I ' m not eating anything spicy or curious. I think it ' s stress. I felt this way once before when I had an ulcer.
It feels better if I eat. Can anyone suggest something my stomach might find pacific? I had a mock Danish for breakfast, which stopped it for a bit, but it ' s too high in calories to have again for lunch.
5 ' 1 ", 34 years old
SW: 289 CW: 236 GW: 116
Justness
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 10: 46 pm   Post subject:
Magnesium will empty your stomach of all of the filth you put in it the other day, and a few soft scrambled eggs cooked in olive oil will coat it and make it more comfortable.... so, take some Phillips Milk of Magnesia and the proein, and you ' ll be fine... but YOU DESERVE IT!!!
pheonixheart
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3: 32 am   Post subject:
Cheddar Cheese helps me. It ' s made from milk but doesn ' t have the carbs, so it soothes. At least for me. I suppose other types of cheese might do as well - I just prefer cheddar lol. I hope your stomach feels better soon!
If you truly suspect it ' s an ulcer though since you ' ve had one before, I ' d get to a doctor and have it checked out if it doesn ' t stop soon...
Bright Blessings,
Lisa
Fiona
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3: 28 pm   Post subject:
I have had heart burn for several years and my doctor told me to eat 5 or 10 olives one hour after dinner ( or whatever meal is causing the burn ), it is amazing, I don ' t need pepto or tums anymore.
Give it a try.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.004-08:00

avoid being discouraged
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rae
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 5: 03 pm   Post subject: avoid being discouraged
So I don't get discouraged, I mark on my calendar, about a month ahead, very modest goals, ( about 2 lbs. every two weeks ) and I find that when the scale doesn't move for a week or moves very little, I look at my calendar and feel better because I'm still on track. Although I wish I were a sprinter, being a distance runner isn't to bad at all!! Eight pounds is eight pounds, even if it takes two months.
Genesis15
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Fasten Oct 24, 2007 2: 12 am   Post subject:
how long have you been on the diet and what phase are u in?
rae
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Conjugate Oct 24, 2007 2: 23 am   Post subject:
Today is day one of week four and I ' m still on induction. I have lost 7lbs total. 5 lbs week one, 1 lb week two and 1 lb week three.
start weight 140
weight now 133
goal weight 120
Slow, but still dropping weight. And it ' s better than gaining. They talk about the " woosh fairy, ".... there ' s always next week [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
Nina
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 2: 22 pm   Post subject:
rae wrote:
Slow, but still dropping weight. And it ' s better than gaining. They talk about the " woosh fairy, ".... there ' s always next week [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
Rae, your positive outlook is really motivating! WTG!
Justice
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 9: 50 pm   Post subject:
Your analogy regarding long distance running is interesting, because it is excercise that will eventually take you to your goal if you remain on Atkins. You are looking to attain a weight goal which is very light compared to many, so the usual reports of people losing 5 or 6 pounds per week will not apply to you... be patient, follow the program, drink tons of water, and excercise daily. Your attitude is great!!!!
Daisymay
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Sun Oct 28, 2007 5: 15 pm   Post subject:
You are doing great! Smaller amounts of weight to loose takes longer.
Keep going!

2008-11-06T02:00:00.003-08:00

I am shocked I hate fast food
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artinformation
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 4: 44 pm   Post subject: I am shocked I hate fast food
I am starting my 8th day. I am not too happy with my progress. I lost 3 lbs over the last week and as of this morning I have gained 4 lbs back. So I took a hard look at what I have been doing wrong. I think my major mistake has been too much heavy cream. I guess I will cut out the crustless quiche. I have been having them for the last six days. I love them and I will miss having them but I must give them up for now. I also need to up my water. I am currently drinking about 8 to 10 glasses but I guess that is not enough. I am also determined to increase my exercise. Last time I got away with not exercising that much but times change, commonality change and I am older. So even though I am very fustrated I am going to keep on course and hopefully the scale will start moving again.
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bcopith
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 6: 05 pm   Post subject:
I ' m not positive but it seems like it wouldn ' t be the quiche causing you problems. I read your post and panicked because I eat it a lot too. So I went over to fitday and entered in the entire recipe... 12 eggs, 2 cups heavy cream, 2 cups cheese, etc... I don ' t use meat so that ' s not in there. Anyway, it came out to like 3500 cals with 23 carbs. Divide that by how many servings you get and it ' s not many carbs. Ten servings would be only 2. 3 carbs per serving.
Anyway, just thought I ' d add my thoughts.
InthePresent
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 3: 50 am   Post subject:
Don ' t feel discouraged ArtInformation. I did a week of Induction and only lost 1 / 2 pound. I ' m thinking it was the Atkin ' s bars ( I had one per day ), so I don ' t eat those anymore.
Are you measuring your inches as well as weight?
The number # thing that is good about your 8 days is that you are practising good habits, lots of water, lots of vegetables, good fats / proteins. Keep on keepin ' on, you ' re going to lose more, you ' ll see.
artinformation
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 3: 41 pm   Post subject: 9th day and I lost 2lbs of the 4lbs that I had gained yah
Today is my 9th day on Induction. I have lost 2 of the 4 lbs that I gained over the last few days. I cut out the quiche. I also watched my heavy cream consumption in other foods. In addition I wasn ' t really hungrey yesterday. For dinner I only ate my salad. I had also prepared fish but I just didn ' t feel like eating it. I also increased my water intake to 12 glasses. A combination of what I did must have worked.
artinformation
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Hitch on Feb 06, 2008 1: 12 am   Post subject:
I actually exercised today. It wasn ' t much but its a start. I worked out for 20 publication on the bike. I could feel the pain in my legs. But I plan to exercise again tommorrow. If I can keep this up 5 times a week I will be very happy
yaz180
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Leash Feb 06, 2008 1: 36 pm   Post subject:
heyy keep it upp!!!! We ' re all behind you!
don ' t give in, consistency is KEY!
maro
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Clip Feb 06, 2008 7: 52 pm   Post subject:
yaz180 wrote:
consistency is KEY!
i just read ( in this forum dont know where )
if you eat the same menu everyday it would help in weight loss
artinformation best of luck!
thx for supporting me [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
yaz180
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Leash Feb 06, 2008 8: 36 pm   Post subject:
yeahh i read this in a magazine too. apparently jenifer aniston does it for lunch every day. dunno - i think it just helps u stop thinkin abt food, which in turn stops unecessary binging. i ' m not sure.
Ginny_O
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Melt Feb 06, 2008 9: 05 pm   Post subject:
There ' s also something I read that said that you eat more if you eat more variety. i. e. at buffets, when you take a spoonful of this, a spoonful of that - - it adds up to a lot more calories than if you layout a la carte. I think if you eat the same thing all the time you get a bit bored with it so you don ' t eat as much. You know you ' ll have it again tomorrow. While if it ' s something you don ' t eat often, you ' ll take more because who knows how long it will be before you get it again?
artinformation
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Juxtapose Feb 06, 2008 9: 24 pm   Post subject:
Thank you everyone for your support
I totally subscribe with you all about eating the same thing everyday will help you to lose weight. I think I am going to give it a try for a few days. The principle is so uninvolved, I can ' t believe I didn ' t think of it before.
artinformation
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Thu Feb 07, 2008 1: 47 am   Post subject: Day 10 and I have an exercise question
I got through day 10. No cheats so far but the night is not over yet - - - - I made myself go and exercise again today. I don ' t think I have exercised 2 days in a row in my life. Today I exercised for 38 minutes. 30 minutes on treadmill and 8 minutes on the bike. I worked out 1 mile on each.
I have a couple exercise questions:
How do I keep trak of my exercising. Do I count the miles that I do or the time that I spend exercisin? I know its kind of a stupid question but I don ' t go to a gym. I have an exercise room in my apartment.
Ginny_O
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Thu Feb 07, 2008 4: 06 am   Post subject:
If your goal is just good health, then I would think time would be the thing to keep track of. Your goal is to do an hour a day, 4 - 5 days a week ( or more ).
OTOH, If you like to challenge yourself and feel like you ' re making progress, then you might want to keep track of miles, to see whether you can improve your ability to walk / run / bike. i. e. starting out, you may only be able to run 100 yards. After a couple of weeks, you may be able to run 1 / 2 mile. From there it picks up, to the point of running 5 miles. Keeping track of that kind of progress can be fun to do. You really can tell the difference in your fitness levels, which feels very good.
artinformation
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 6: 43 am   Post subject: I am shocked I hate fast food
Today is day 12 and I have only lost 1 lb. As you all know I have been very fustrated with the lack of weight loss. I have done all the right things like increase water, exercise, cut out splenda, diet coke, cream, 20 gram carbs, veges, salads etc. Today I started the day off good, I had eggs and turkey bacon for breakfast and then I had chicken and romaine for lunch. I went to Cosco and stocked up for next week. When I got home I found out my Godmother has been taken into the emergency room. Seems like lately every weekend I end up going to the emergency room for someone I know. Anyway I stayed in the emergency room till 11: 30 pm and then on the way home I told my husband that I wanted to cheat to see if I can break this stall. Since no where else was open, I went to Wendy ' s and ordered myself a double cheeseburger and super size fries. My husband declined and said he would stay on plan. I started eating the fries in the car. The first 4 or 5 tasted really good but after that each one tasted worse and worse. Meanwhile my husband couldnt take it any more and he turned around and ordered himself a meal. By the time we got home I had finished the fries and they tasted like I was eatting very greasy straws or cardboard. I had this very greasy taste in my mouth. I felt like I had drank a gallon of oil. So I am thinking to myself: Self you hated the fries but you will surely like the hamburger. I took one bite and then two. I didn ' t enjoy the hamburger one bit. The more I ate it the worse it tasted. It didn ' t have any taste in my mouth!!! My husband had the exact same reaction. He is like what is this that I am eating. It dosn ' t taste like I remember. These things used to taste very good and now I don ' t like the fries or the hamburger. 2 hours have passed since my meal and I really feel sick. I am still feeling very very full, bloated, uncomfortable. I have this horrible taste in my mouth and throat. I still feel like I have drank a gallan of baaaaaaaaaaad oil. This cheat meal might or it might not help my weight loss. But one thing it did was to show me that I do not like the way that I used to eat. I don ' t think my body can take my old unhealthy life style. Time will tell but for now I have sworn off fast food for good. Right now I don ' t even want to eat Wendy ' s hamburger without the bun. ( I have been eatting clean since January 14th. I guess my taste buds have totally changed. I eat a lot of fat on Atkins EVO oil and butter and it dosn ' t bother me. Has this happed to anyone else? After my cheat meal I have been thinking maybe the reason I havn ' t lost is because I lost 10 lbs on a plan very similar to Atkins and then I started Atkins right away??? What do you all think????
yaz180
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 3: 01 pm   Post subject:
i know howit feels! numerous times... after restricting yourself from a life time full of bad habits, you think that if you go back to it it ' ' l be just the way it used to be.
last summer i gave in and a peanut butter and jam sandwich, wen on to chocolates, cereal, rice, noodles... and everytime, NOTHING made me feel full / happy / energetic / healthy. cheap nasty carbs. the only thing that really satisfied me was fresh steamed veggies.
but the cheap carbs, fast food, rice...? nada. it only made me feel FAT, tired, DEPRESSED and totally out of control of my life. lets never go back.
desertbitch
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Sun Feb 10, 2008 5: 06 pm   Post subject:
my tastebuds have changed, too. I cant remember what i ate, but I was surprised at how lousy it was. i did eat a piece of homemade whole wheat banana bread I made and I felt like I had eaten a basketball. PAIN!
Sorry about your hospital visits.
tickerrose
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 4: 11 pm   Post subject:
another thing I noticed last time I did the diet ( I haven ' t cheated yet this time around so I don ' t know about this time! ) was that I had a much increased sensativity to sweet. I remember I once took a sip on non - diet soda and almost threw up. I couldn ' t believe how sweet it tasted and not in a good way.
AlexaKL
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 7: 46 pm   Post subject:
It ' s hard to believe that I could EVER lose my love for chocholate. Could it really happen? I can say no to about everything else, but very hard to say no to chocolate.

2008-11-06T02:00:00.002-08:00

Cravings
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Abbilyn
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 4: 15 pm   Post subject: Cravings
Hi everyone,
Ive been doing Atkins for about three weeks now, but I ' m still on the induction phase. My only problem is that I ' ve been suffering from cravings for chocolate more than anything. Funny this is, before I started Atkins I wasn ' t a huge sweet tooth or chocolate devotee, but these cravings are driving me crazy. I haven ' t given in, because I ' ve done too well to just ruin it now. Any tips on how I can stop these cravings? Or any sweet foods that are acceptable whilst on induction?? [ / icon_smile. gif]
bluehex
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 8: 11 pm   Post subject:
Sugarfree jello is allowed.
You could also whip some cream with unsweetened cocoa powder and Splenda ( or syrup ) or make your own chocolate of cocoa powder, butter and cream. Just be careful on the amounts, cocoa powder has some carbs.
Someone also recommended mixing cream cheese with unsweetened baking chocolate, but I never tried it - don ' t like chocolate and cheese, just a personal taste. Might be good for a craving, though.
Browse the recipe section, there are many recipes for sweets there, and many of them are acceptable for Induction. ( e. g. cheesecakes )
Abbilyn
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 9: 05 pm   Post subject:
Thanks for those suggestions [ / icon_smile. gif] I shall give them a try, do I have to be careful with quantities when it comes to the sugar free jello?

2008-11-06T02:00:00.001-08:00

D - ribose any info?
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letsgoplaces
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 6: 27 am Post subject: D - ribose any info?
Hi first time here and about to start the induction phase. I recently bought a supplement called D - ribose a 5 similitude sugar that many doctors are advocating for people who suffer with Fibromyalgia as I do. Does anyone have any information on how this supplement works with a low carb lifestyle? I " ve googled it over and over and basically get very little information along this line. I ' d really appreciate any help you may be able to give me. Thanks. [ / b]

2008-11-06T02:00:00.000-08:00

Ketosis
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mmafight79
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7: 32 pm   Post subject: Ketosis
I ' m new to this stuff. What is Ketosis?
Farmgirl
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Location: Utah
Mon Feb 11, 2008 10: 57 pm   Post subject:
Ok, I am no expert but here is the concise cliffhanger. Ok, your body needs fuel to live and so when you eat sugars and carbs that is what it uses as fule. When there aren ' t any carbs etc to use then the body starts using the stored fat. When the fat is being used the body puts off ketones as a sort of by product. When doing atkins its a good thing. Some people use little strips you pee on that let you know when your body is doing this ( myself included ). Others go by the metalic taste you get in your mouth. For some it can take several days before the body goes into ketosis and for others much sooner. Now someone can give you the much more scientific version. Mine was very layman. Hope it sort of helps. Welcome to the board, its a lifesaver!
desertbitch
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 3: 04 am   Post subject:
mmafight79,
I suggest you get the book also. I have read it over and over again.
You can hardly do the plan with out first reading it.
http: / / www. amazon. com / Dr - Atkins - New - Diet - Revolution / dp / 006001203X

2008-11-06T01:57:00.006-08:00

What do you have for brekkie?
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carriel
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Fri May 09, 2008 1: 30 pm   Post subject: What do you have for brekkie?
This was my downfall before, my mornings are eye-popping, with baby & older two to get ready & off to school. I never seemed to have time to cook anything.
I was thinking about maybe boiling some eggs the night before & have them cold with some ham & maybe a slice or 2 of cheese?
Do you have any good brekkie ideas?
I do have the George Forman grill this time which I didnt have before, so a couple of slices of bacon probably wouldnt be too difficult.
wheresmycoat
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Fri May 09, 2008 2: 29 pm   Post subject:
i pimple 18 eggs on sunday and eat 2 - 4 each morning during the week ( or after a workout ) on my way out the door. its 3 seconds to eat and fills you up. i eat them natural, but you could add salt / pepper / cayenne / cumin / etc.... if you ' ve got some no - sugar ham slices or smoked salmon to go with, then perfect!
wanttobethin
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Fri May 09, 2008 3: 10 pm   Post subject:
I always have my brekkie after the school bound. So I can have some me time and enjoy it.
I have bacon, egg, mushrooms and tomato [ / icon_lol. gif] Its enjoyable and fills me up til 2pm.
Hope you do well I have only been doing it since Tuesday and have lost 5lbs already.
Rach xx
karenjs
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Sat May 10, 2008 5: 16 am   Post subject:
On the weekend, I almost always have an omelet for breakfast, using whatever veggies and meat are in the frig.
On the weekend I have low - carb yogurt, some cheese, an Atkins shake or a hunk of turkey breast. Lately, I ' ve been adding 1 / 4 to 1 / 2 cup of berries to my breakfast. I ' m in the OWL stage though. On Induction, you should skip the yogurt and berries.
porkypine
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Sat May 10, 2008 7: 14 am   Post subject:
I usually have an omelette with bacon and cheese but you could make oopsie - rolls and in the mornings toast them and put whatever you like on them.
I have also tried an egg cream recipe which is a bit like a shake made from eggs. I wasn ' t too keen on it but you might like it. You can prepare it the night before and put it in the fridge.
heyla44
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Sat May 10, 2008 10: 03 pm   Post subject:
Boiling eggs the night before is definitely the way forward... I might go and boil some now actually!
carriel
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Sun May 11, 2008 11: 52 am   Post subject:
brilliant suggestions, thank you.
I tend to have to get up with baby at around 6 & back from the school run around 9, dont think I could wait that long for brekkie.
So I think i ' ll grab an egg to keep me going, then have a nice brekkie of an omellete, or some bacon eggs & mushrooms when I get back.
wheresmycoat
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Sun May 11, 2008 12: 24 pm   Post subject:
grab 2 eggs.... Mums need an extra boost of energy in the mornings! [ / icon_cool. gif]
together4ever
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Fri May 16, 2008 12: 06 am   Post subject:
I usually get an egg omelette on the weekends because it takes longer to prepare... and on weekdays, its usually eggs with a slice of cheese and a little bacon
Danka_la
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Fri May 16, 2008 7: 59 am   Post subject:
together4ever wrote:
I usually get an egg omelette on the weekends because it takes longer to prepare... and on weekdays, its usually eggs with a slice of cheese and a little bacon
me too! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]

2008-11-06T01:57:00.005-08:00

Biggest Loser... anybody???
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smerbear
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Mon Jan 28, 2008 12: 28 pm   Post subject: Biggest Loser... anybody???
Does anyone watch the Biggest Loser. I am so addicted to that show. It gives me such inspiration but I think this is the first time that I am actually watching my weight at the same time the show is on. I keep thinking I could look just as good as those people when they are done.
Anyway, another Monday... off to work!!! [ / icon_smile. gif]
Ginny_O
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Location: Maryland
Mon Jan 28, 2008 11: 46 pm   Post subject:
I ' m also a fan. In fact, it was partly because I watched the last season that I finally decided it was past time to get started on my own weight loss. I know that the way they lose weight isn ' t feasible for most of us, but it is fun to watch the incredible transformations.
mneemnee
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Location: Cairo, Egypt
Mon Feb 04, 2008 6: 01 pm   Post subject:
I watched season 1 and 2 only. I think there is season 3, but they didn ' t air it here in my country. We even have an Arabic version.

2008-11-06T01:57:00.004-08:00

Starting Tomorrow
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wanttobethin
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Mon May 05, 2008 6: 28 pm   Post subject: Starting Tomorrow
Hi everyone.
I want to loose the 2 stone that I can ' t shift after having my baby. Have tried ~WW~ and Slimming World but they haven ' t favorable me. I am cheering this diet will work as I always get bloated after bread and potatoes.
So 28lbs to lose starting tomorrow.
Hope you guys can help and support me.
~Rachel~
treespirit
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Mon May 05, 2008 8: 17 pm   Post subject:
[ / icon_biggrin. gif] Why not start today?
wanttobethin
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Mon May 05, 2008 9: 40 pm   Post subject:
[ / icon_razz. gif] Can ' t do today. Kids off school and have already drunk loads at a barbeque. Just had my last supper Cheese on toast and it was bewitching but will get on the scales tomorrow and start loosing weight crossed fingers LOL
Rachel xx [ / icon_wink. gif]
treespirit
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Mon May 05, 2008 10: 06 pm   Post subject:
So you had cheese on toast.... Im just saying anything further that you have today can be atkins. You can also start pouring down the water. It will just give you a bit of a head start.
porkypine
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Tue May 06, 2008 5: 07 am   Post subject:
Hey Rachel! Welcome to Atkins! I ' m on day two now with around the same amount to lose. I got through day 1 by stocking up my fridge with a nice variety of Atkins - friendly food. Hope it goes well for you too [ / icon_smile. gif]
wanttobethin
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Tue May 06, 2008 8: 26 am   Post subject:
Hi Porkypine
Glad to have someone who has the same amount to lose.
I have just had bacon and eggs for brekkie will have tuna mayo and lettuce for dinner and have an omelette with cheese and mushrooms lined up for tea.
Bought loads of water for the day so hopefully I am all prepared. Just need to work out what to feed hubby and the kids LOL
What are you having today?
Rachel
porkypine
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Tue May 06, 2008 9: 06 am   Post subject:
For breakfast I had an egg and 2 slices of bacon. I got up entirely early so I ' ve already had my mid - morning snack: 1 oz cheese with italian ham.
For lunch I ' m planning on making salad wraps with beef, mayo, cheese and more salad inside. ( I would maybe put some red peppers in too but I ' m having the rest of my veg carbs for tea )
For tea I ' m going to make the broccoli chinese fried rice dish that I found in the recipe section. I ' ll let you know if it ' s as good as they say it is, it ' s the kind of meal the whole family can enjoy [ / icon_smile. gif]
I ' ve already lost 3 lbs ( water weight ) since yesterday. It ' s really encouraging. I hope you wake up to a nice surprise tomorrow too [ / icon_smile. gif]
wanttobethin
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Tue May 06, 2008 9: 30 am   Post subject:
Thats great porky!! 3lbs gone so do you feel less bloated now? I always felt bloated after bread and potatoes so rosy my belly bulge will go down. Your menu seems a bit more varied than mine but I am sure I will get there by following all your advice.
Rach
wanttobethin
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Wed May 07, 2008 7: 06 am   Post subject:
Morning everyone [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
Well I have just weighed myself and I am 3lbs down I know its only water weight but boy does it make me feel good [ / icon_lol. gif]
Stuck to it really well yesterday drunk loads of water and ate all the recommend foods.
Today is bacon and eggs for breakfast once I ' ve got the girls off to school.
Thanks to everyone for your advice
Rach salute
redboots
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Join May 07, 2008 8: 31 am   Post subject:
Well done thats great news I always wait until my daughters in school before I have breakfast as well
wanttobethin
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Append May 07, 2008 8: 50 am   Post subject:
Hi ~Redboots
You are probably like me and have no time to eat before they go. [ / icon_sad. gif]
I notice you are from Wales too, hope you are enjoying the sun today. How long have you been on this diet and is it going well for you? I feel so excited that I might have found a way to get rid of this baby weight. Ruby is 2 next month so its defo time for it to go [ / icon_rolleyes. gif]
Rach salutation
redboots
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Coadunate May 07, 2008 8: 59 am   Post subject:
I still have my baby weight and my daughters 7 lol
I started in febuary my progress is under the name pinkprincess
I ' ve lost just over a stone so far but I ' ve cheated a few times and had a week or two off as well.
I ' m losing about a 1lb a week but I ' m happy with that, I don ' t feel as though I ' m really missing out on anything on this diet.
I started off at 157lbs so I needed to lose nearly 2 stone as well.
The sun shining does seem to engurage me with the diet lots of tuna or chicken salad in this weather
wanttobethin
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Conjoin May 07, 2008 9: 29 am   Post subject:
Thats great losing a stone how much more do you have to go?
I have a cheese and corned beef salad lined up for dinner but to be honest after my bacon and eggs and nearly a litre of water I am to full to be thinking about food so that can ' t be bad [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
Think I ' ll take Ruby out for a long walk after ( once my brekkie has gone down LOL ) Going to Cyprus in August so promising to be on target for that.
Its hard especially when I am a mum to 2 skinny teenagers who always look great [ / icon_evil. gif]
Rach xx
porkypine
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Lump together May 07, 2008 4: 55 pm   Post subject:
Hello,
Congrats Rachel on your 3lbs! I sadly didn ' t lose anything today, I think my water weight ' s all gone [ / icon_smile. gif] Your corned beef salad sounds really nice! I hadn ' t thought to buy any corned beef. I got a bit frustrated in the supermarket at the amount of cold meat slices with dextrose in the ingredients.
The cauliflower Chinese fried rice was really nice, you should definitely try it. Although I ' d advise you to put the cauliflower in the food - processor instead of spending an hour grating it [ / icon_smile. gif]
Congrats Redboots on losing a stone! Looks like we all want to lose 2 stone here [ / icon_smile. gif]
wheresmycoat
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Bracket May 07, 2008 5: 29 pm   Post subject:
Hi Porky,
Would you please post your cauliflower fried rice recipe? Sounds delicious!
Thanks!
porkypine
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Clip May 07, 2008 5: 55 pm   Post subject:
I found it in the recipe section for some reason I can ' t post the link, but if you go there you ' ll find it.
I found it made 4 portions, and I heated one up for lunch today and it was goooood. I was a bit hesitant about using soy sauce but apparently it ' s ok as long as you count the carbs.
wanttobethin
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Link May 07, 2008 7: 27 pm   Post subject:
Hi Porky
I will defo try the cauliflower fried rice. Need some help with some snacks I repeatedly snack on grapes but now can ' t do that so what can I have thats quick and easy.
Feeling really tired tonight its only 20. 30 and I want to go to stiffener [ / icon_cry. gif]
Feel really ratty and irritable [ / icon_evil. gif]
Hope I feel better tomorrow. It doesn ' t make me want to give in though.
I have sorted all my clothes out today and ironed my thin clothes to give me an insentive [ / icon_lol. gif]
Rach xx
porkypine
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Combine May 07, 2008 8: 42 pm   Post subject:
Rachel - How much water are you drinking? It ' s easy to confuse hunger with thirst. About the snacks I find it hard too. You could try some mayonnaise on turkey slices or maybe some cream cheese on celery. I repeatedly snack on stuff like Italian prosciutto ham and today I had some smoked salmon. Don ' t forget you can wrap anything you like in a salad leaf too.
I ' m worried I might be eating too much, but if the calories really don ' t count it should be ok.
Oh and if you feel ratty don ' t forget a cup of tea is the solution for everything [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
wanttobethin
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Associate May 07, 2008 9: 25 pm   Post subject:
Hi Porky
Thanks for the snack tips hope they will help me through tomorrow. I have drunk 2 litres of water today so it can be thirst LOL
Hubby has just taken me for a walk to get it out of my system and away from the fridge [ / icon_lol. gif]
It is helping me to have you to talk to.
Rachxxx
wanttobethin
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Fri May 09, 2008 7: 07 am   Post subject:
OMG Another 2lbs off today. So thats 5lb since Tuesday. I am feeling really good and even waking up hungry. I have my 3 meals a day but don ' t feel like snacking inbetween which is amazing for me and I haven ' t seen my stomach this flat in ages.
So so happy [ / icon_lol. gif]
Rach xx
redboots
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Fri May 09, 2008 8: 25 am   Post subject:
Thats fab well done on losing 5lb your doing fab and I ' m sure you ' ll be at your target weight for you hol in August
wanttobethin
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Fri May 09, 2008 10: 46 am   Post subject:
Thanks Redboots
I am so excited I can ' t belive it.
Rach xx
porkypine
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Fri May 09, 2008 11: 32 am   Post subject:
Wow that ' s great!! I still haven ' t lost anything since my water weight.. I ' m being careful and following the rules so I don ' t understand why I ' m not losing anything.
How many calories do you eat roughly per day?
I got my period today though, maybe that ' s having some effect on my weight. I really hope I ' m not just a slow loser!
By the way, today I tried oopsie rolls and used them as a bun for a cheeseburger. It was delicious!!
xoxo
wanttobethin
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Fri May 09, 2008 7: 28 pm   Post subject:
Hi Porky
Not sure how many calories I am having just sticking to 3 meals a day but to be honest I think because of the sugar stablizing thing I am not feeling the need to eat snacks and just drink about 2 litres of water.
Never heard of oopie? rolls will google it now though.
Sure your period is halting this weeks progress so maybe you will lose double next week.
Oh to be a man [ / icon_lol. gif]
Rach xx
wanttobethin
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Sat May 10, 2008 7: 19 am   Post subject:
OMG Its Saturday morning the sun is shining and I ' ve lost another 1lb [ / icon_lol. gif]
Thats 6lbs since Tuesday. And you can tell even hubby noticed that I have a waist at last!!
Just having my breakfast of bacon and melted cheese, but working today so I am a bit worried about what to eat whilst I ' m on my travels but I ' m sure that I ' ll manage.
Hope everyone else is doing well
Rach xx
porkypine
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Sat May 10, 2008 7: 27 am   Post subject:
Congrats on the loss!
Did you manage to find the oopsie - roll recipe? I ' d post a link, but I still don ' t know how to... If you type ' cleochatra oopsie roll ' into google you should find it. If you have time to make any this morning you could use them as bread for a sarnie to take into work for lunch.
Whatever you do, don ' t be influenced by everyone else eating high - carb food at lunch. You ' re doing really well, keep up the good work [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
I ' ve lost a bit too although I ' ve been having some huge chocolate cravings! I had a bit of a binge last night but only on acceptable foods. Can ' t wait to weigh in on Monday and see how much I ' ll have lost in week 1.
wanttobethin
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Mon May 12, 2008 9: 00 am   Post subject:
Ok Monday morning and after a busy weekend I have lost another 1lb. The weekend wasn ' t that bad and managed to eat while I was out and about. Went to the chippy and got a cheeseburger with loads of salad and mayo and it was lovely and threw the roll away. Also had a prawn salad which was lovely.
Can ' t believe how easy this is so far
Rach xx
karenjs
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Mon May 12, 2008 11: 30 pm   Post subject:
You ' re doing great! Good idea to order a cheeseburger and toss the roll. I like how easy it is to do Atkins too. The only weird thing so far is when I ' m eating out with others and they remark about my food choices. How rude! [ / icon_rolleyes. gif] [ / icon_smile. gif]
Tracy08
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Tue May 13, 2008 2: 53 am   Post subject:
What is a " chippy " and how much is a stone in lbs?
wheresmycoat
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Tue May 13, 2008 7: 15 am   Post subject:
chippy is a take away ( to go ) food outlet where they ( mainly ) sell deep fried fish and chips ( fries ).
1 stone = 14 lbs.
Danka_la
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Tue May 13, 2008 1: 41 pm   Post subject:
Hello, Im Danka from Bosnia and Herzegovina and I am 14years old. I have 60 kg in weight ( help me to converte into pounds; ) ). I started atkins few days ago... but sometimes I cant resist the highcarb food.
we all should stick together, shouldnt we!? I hate my body when I see Sienna Miller! I have been introduced to atkins diet, but if u got some sugestions or advices, you will help me a lot!!!
My question is May I use chew gims ( like orbit, winterfresh, strong,.. )... hug from danka!
wanttobethin
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Location: North Wales
Tue May 13, 2008 4: 36 pm   Post subject:
OK Tuesday morning and another 2lbs gone so I think thats 9lb in a week. Starting to feel the benefits too.
Had Prawn Salad today it was lovely and I have bought a garlic mushroom chicken from asda today with nil carbs. There are 2 chicken breasts, mushrooms and garlic butter and you cook it for 30mins. I will have mine with broccoli and made some mash as well for hubby. Makes meal times easier.
I take baby belles out with me for if I feel peckish.
this diet really works [ / icon_lol. gif]
Hope everyone is doing well
Rach xx ( 9lb lighter ) [ / icon_lol. gif]
heyla44
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Tue May 13, 2008 4: 39 pm   Post subject:
Congrats on you 9lbs! It feels good doesn ' t it? The best thing is when people notice. And in this lovely [ / icon_sunny. gif] weather you can show it off!!!
MMMMM Chippy... wonder how many carbs there are in fish and chips with scraps....
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Caoimhe
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Tue May 13, 2008 4: 46 pm   Post subject:
congratulations on the loss! i like how atkins doesn ' t make you feel some sort of guilt for feeling hungry, or like a failure for wanting food. i fell off the food wagon, but am now back on and more determined than ever! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
porkypine
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Tue May 13, 2008 4: 59 pm   Post subject:
Wow congrats that ' s wonderful!
I have to admit I feel off the wagon too at the weekend [ / icon_redface. gif]
But I ' m back on it and hopefully I ' ll have results like yours to show for it by the end of the week.
Your garlic mushroom chicken sounds amazaing too by the way, bon appétit [ / icon_wink. gif]
wanttobethin
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Tue May 13, 2008 6: 26 pm   Post subject:
Thanks for all your replies can believe anyone reads my ramblings [ / icon_lol. gif]
This board is helping me a lot.
I nearly went astray at the weekend led by my hubby but I didn ' t cheat once. Can ' t believe it as I have never done a diet and not cheated by day 2 [ / icon_redface. gif]
Hope you are all doing well and Porky can ' t wait to hear about you loss.
Rach xx
Danka_la
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Tue May 13, 2008 6: 54 pm   Post subject:
u are awesome!!! I give you my full support! great job! Now I can converte; ) so you have lost many kilos!!!!
GREAT
wanttobethin
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Tue May 13, 2008 8: 53 pm   Post subject:
Thank you so much Danka
Hope your weight loss is going well.
Am feeling really hungry tonight so munching on prawns [ / icon_lol. gif]
Rach xx
Danka_la
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Wed May 14, 2008 6: 10 pm   Post subject:
Now I am 124Ibs, tending to have 120. As you know Im on Atkins diet, and trying not to cheat! I will waight again tomorrow. If I find some recepiec, I will give you. You all have my support.
Nothing; ), You have done great jop, hold on!!!
Danka_la
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Wed May 14, 2008 9: 49 pm   Post subject:
Danka_la wrote:
Now I am 124Ibs, tending to have 120. As you know Im on Atkins diet, and trying not to cheat! I will waight again tomorrow. If I find some recepiec, I will give you. You all have my support.
Nothing; ), You have done great jop, hold on!!!
I ment keep holding on! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
porkypine
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Thu May 15, 2008 9: 03 am   Post subject:
Rachel - you ' re doing great, good job on not letting your hubby lead you astray [ / icon_biggrin. gif] Last week I lost a total of 5 lbs despite the weekend cheating. I ' m back on track though, there will be no cheating this week!
Danka - you really don ' t have a lot to lose so it ' s definitely not worth cheating! How is the diet going so far?
Danka_la
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Thu May 15, 2008 12: 16 pm   Post subject:
Porkypine, you are right! I stopped cheating... sometimes ( but sometimes ) I cant resist the high carb food wich is my family eating: D. I need to control myself.
wanttobethin
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Thu May 15, 2008 4: 04 pm   Post subject:
Hi Porky
Well done on your 5lb loss thats brilliant [ / icon_lol. gif]
I have stayed off the scales for a couple of days so I don ' t get disheartened if I haven ' t lost.
My trousers are definately fitting better though and more energy too. Just bought a baby jogger stroller so I can take her out for runs in the day time.
Danka - No cheating!! [ / icon_lol. gif]
Rach xx
Danka_la
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Thu May 15, 2008 9: 33 pm   Post subject:
wanttobethin wrote:
Hi Porky
Well done on your 5lb loss thats brilliant [ / icon_lol. gif]
I have stayed off the scales for a couple of days so I don ' t get disheartened if I haven ' t lost.
My trousers are definately fitting better though and more energy too. Just bought a baby jogger stroller so I can take her out for runs in the day time.
Danka - No cheating!! [ / icon_lol. gif]
Rach xx
xaxax, I stopped cheathing when I sow Sienna Miller in new bikini ( definetly! ) [ / icon_smile. gif]
Danka_la
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Thu May 15, 2008 9: 57 pm   Post subject:
Name Bacon Fried Cabbage
Category Vegetable
Serves / Yields 4
Difficulty Easy
Prep. Time 5 min.
Cook Time 10 min.
Introduction
This is a terrific way to enjoy cabbage, actually, when I was a kid it was the only way
my Mom could get me to eat it.
Ingredients
6 - 7 slices bacon, chopped
1 small head cabbage
salt & pepper to taste
small amount of water if needed
Directions
Step: 1 Fry chopped bacon in hot skillet until crispy. Remove with slotted spoon and reserve on paper towel. Chop cabbage to desired size ( any size will do ) and add to drippings in skillet. Sprinkle with salt & pepper. Cover and reduce heat to med. or med. low and let cook about 5 min. ( or to desired doneness ) stirring ocassionally. If too dry add a small amount of water. Remove cabbage from skillet, sprinkle reserved bacon on top and enjoy!

2008-11-06T01:57:00.003-08:00

Think I ' m going to move to the OWL phase
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bcopith
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 5: 58 pm   Post subject: Think I ' m going to move to the OWL phase
Hi all. This is my 5th week on induction and I think I going to move to OWL. I haven ' t lost that much weight but I don ' t have much to lose anyway. I did Atkins to originate my blood sugar... have hypoglycemia... and it that respect, it has been very successful. I have also noticed that I am WAY less bloated and gassy than I have ever been. I have a lot of food insensitivities and this has really helped with those. I plan to finish out the week doing induction and then start adding things like nuts and a small amount of fruit, maybe cottage cheese, back into my diet. I ' m going to do just one kind of food at a time so I will be able to tell who is the sinner if my tummy acts up.
The book says to do OWLs or Pre - Mainentance when you have only 10lbs or so left to lose. I started only have to lose a little so I think I probably need to be at least in OWLs right? I am 5 ' 7 " and started at 148. I ' d like to be 135. I haven ' t weighed myself in a week because it ' s TOM and I don ' t want to get discouraged. I was 142. 8 last week. I will likely not lose everything I want until I am medically more stable. I have adrenal insuffuciency and have to take steroids for that and I have hypthyroidism and take thryoid meds for that. I am still not optimized on those meds yet so I expect I won ' t get to my goal until then, but I can wait. I have been feeling a little better lately so I am promising to start exercising again. I used to go to teh gym days a week but now a walk does me in. I ' m going to start adding in little walks and maybe Pilates. Those should be easy enough on me.
I would also like to give myself a little driven on the back. NOT ONCE IN A WHOLE 5 WEEKS did I cheat. NOT ONCE. I didn ' t have a single thing I was not supposed to have on induction. I even made brownies for a friend and didn ' t lick the bowl or spoon which is one of my favorite things to do. I ' m very proud of myself. My husband cheats all the time and still loses and I never do and lose hardly anything, but that ' s how it goes. I lost all my weight in the first couple weeks and nothing since, but I ' m hoping I can lose a bit when I move into OWL. I don ' t think I ' m doing anything wrong now and I don ' t want to stay in induction anymore if I would get the same results with OWL. If I ' m not losing now but can eat a little fruit here and there and have the same results, at least my menu will be more varied. Maybe I ' ll start to lose. Who knows.
Anyway, what do you think? Is it a good idea to move into OWL for me since I have so little to lose or a bad idea since I didn ' t lose a lot in induction?
Thanks.
Ginny_O
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 8: 08 pm   Post subject:
You definitely can go into OWL now. Be careful adding in carbs - not too much - but after five weeks, adding in more variety is a good idea. Since you know you have food sensitivities, your idea ( actually Dr. Atkins [ / icon_wink. gif] of doing it one food at a time is also a good one.
Congratulations on not cheating for so long. I wish I could stay on induction that long, but I start adding in more vegetables after a week or so. I can only stand so much lettuce. I share the thyroid problem. I still don ' t know how much of my weight problem is thryroid and how much is age related slowdown. It was under control, but I haven ' t seen a doctor for a couple of years, so I ' m not sure that it still is. Medications did help though, since before then I couldn ' t lose weight no matter what I did.
InthePresent
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 12: 04 am   Post subject: Whoah!
Hi Bcopith;
You ' ve done marvelously well... 5 weeks and no cheats. Give yourself a HUGE pat on the back. You ' ve thought things out well. OWL with a bit of nuts and fruit for starters is perfect. I ' m like you, lost all my weight in first 2 weeks and now I ' m on my fourth week and no more weight loss. I ' ll assess how I feel at end of this week. I may be joining you in OWL.
I have hypoglycemia as well therefore the Atkins eating plan works real well for me too. It ' s an ongoing commitment whether we ' re in Induction or OWL.
Good luck!!
pheonixheart
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 4: 05 am   Post subject:
I think it ' s a wonderful idea to move on to the next phase!! You ' ll be doing yourself a favor in the long run because OWL is when you start incorporating other foods back into your diet, and REALLY start re - learning healthy eating habits from a much more varied world of food!! I think you ' re completely right in thinking that you ' ll get pretty much the same results on OWL.
I also think it ' s absolutely stunning and fantastic you didn ' t cheat for 5 whole weeks that ' s so AMAZING!!! I agree with InThePresent - you really should give yourself a HUGE PAT ON THE BACK!!! Also, for some people, I have noticed that moving on to OWL has actually spurred the weight loss on again. [ / icon_biggrin. gif]
I hope you are able to find a balance for your meds soon and that hopefully that type of thing will no longer be such a large factor in stalling any potential to lose weight... Best of luck to you!!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa

2008-11-06T01:57:00.002-08:00

Suggestions... Not budging....
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IowaMale
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 8: 03 pm   Post subject: Suggestions... Not budging....
I have been on the diet for approximatly 4 weeks. I have lost some inches ( not sure how much, not designate ), but no weight. I did lose about 5 - 7 lbs the first 10 days, and now am at a total stall. In actuality, some days I am up a pound or two. I don ' t cheat hardly at all. I have had a couple of small chocalate kisses a few days ago, but other than that, nothing. I have cut out my coffee, soda intake, etc..... drank so much water I am living in the bathroom and no change!! I do work out 5 - 6 days a week, but shouldn ' t I still lose SOME weight?? I have read and re - read the posts concerning the stall around 4 weeks, and the retention of water, etc. But, when do you see the results of all of the hard work? HELP!!
bluehex
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 8: 16 pm   Post subject:
Well, you are getting results - you lose inches, don ' t you?
Scale is not your friend - it lies. There is an meritorious article about it in the FAQs, check it out: http: / / lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewtopic. php? t=3897
pheonixheart
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 1: 56 am   Post subject:
Aww try to hang in there!! It will happen!! Often it picks up again around weeks 5 or 6. Just remember that your body is busy making a lot of internal changes, and while you may not see those results on the scale, there ARE some good things going on inside. I know it can get discouraging, but for now since you ' ve noticed how much better your clothes are fitting, try to rejoice in that - it ' s proof that you are indeed on the road to success!! Those ARE results! [ / icon_biggrin. gif].
Try not to apprehension - it ' ll happen - one day the " whoosh " fairy will come along and visit you and then you ' ll be several pounds lighter all the sudden!!
Brightest Blessings,
Lisa
artinformation
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5: 45 am   Post subject:
The posters before me are right on mark. Maybe increase your water intake? Also maybe exercise a little more. The important thing is don ' t get discouraged and keep up the good work. The weight will come off.
DJJayito
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 2: 49 pm   Post subject: Re: Suggestions... Not budging....
I am having the same experience as well. I ' m getting rather frustrated. However, I am not gonna quite. I remember my first time on this diet, I lost 10 pounds, to 173, real quick, but then took FOREVER to finally break below that 173. I don ' t think I even changed anything. I just think ONE DAY, I weighed 171, and then from that point on I lost weight to 163, stalled there, then broke. I would like some advice on what I might be doing wrong versus what I am doing right, however. I know that it ' s about the inches and not the weight. IN fact, I have already posted messages in that regard, but if you are losing fat inches, you have to be losing weight. We ' ll see what this week brings.
IowaMale wrote:
I have been on the diet for approximatly 4 weeks. I have lost some inches ( not sure how much, not allot ), but no weight. I did lose about 5 - 7 lbs the first 10 days, and now am at a total stall. In fact, some days I am up a pound or two. I don ' t cheat hardly at all. I have had a couple of small chocalate kisses a few days ago, but other than that, nothing. I have cut out my coffee, soda intake, etc..... drank so much water I am living in the bathroom and no change!! I do work out 5 - 6 days a week, but shouldn ' t I still lose SOME weight?? I have read and re - read the posts concerning the stall around 4 weeks, and the retention of water, etc. But, when do you see the results of all of the hard work? HELP!!
shibalulu
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 3: 58 pm   Post subject:
hello! I started Atkins on Jan 8 / 08 and this forum has been soooo helpful! It is really frustrating to stall or see the scale go up again, but knowing that I ' m neither unique or alone gives me alot of strength to keep focused. I ' ve been able to correct some of my rather naive mistakes by reading through all of your insightful posts, so thankyou!.... perseverance!
DJJayito
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 7: 23 pm   Post subject:
I know that we lose 10 pounds ( or so ) quick, because it ' s water weight. I bet the STALL is a biochemical event... The body is TRYING ITS HARDEST to hold onto the fat reservers, and it takes TIME to break the body of it ' s GRIP. just a though.

2008-11-06T01:57:00.001-08:00

Can I eat Pickles??
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page104
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 4: 19 pm   Post subject: Can I eat Pickles??
Hello all, I am on day 16, still doing inducition, wanted to know can I have a dill pickle??
bluehex
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 5: 18 pm   Post subject:
Yes, if you are sure no sugar was used in the making.
page104
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 5: 24 pm   Post subject:
Thanks for the reply. They say no carb, no sugar.
smerbear
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 7: 52 pm   Post subject:
They are ok to eat.
page104
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 8: 11 pm   Post subject:
Thank you. I ' m having a hard time having a b - movement. What veggies would you suggest?
bluehex
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 9: 33 pm   Post subject:
Flaxseed and lots of water.
page104
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 9: 36 pm   Post subject:
Thanks!!
Twinkles
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11: 30 pm   Post subject: Constipation / Bathroom woes
Smooth Move herbal tea ( do it when you ' re home and near the bath over the weekend!! ) and psyllium husk will keep you entirely regular and pain free in the bathroom. These work unbelievably well calm. Also eat less and less red meat and group more on fresh fish broiled or pan fried in olive oil and butter. Chicken and fresh fish seem to make less sludge in the stomach than beef.
Pickles can be eaten if you get the unsweet kind. HOWEVER you will be really happy to know that Vlasic makes pickles like honey with SPLENDA. These are wonderful. I like to rinse sweet pickles really good in lots of cold water. The cold water keeps them a little crisp and rinses away much of the sugar. In detail, if you want to you can replace the water in the jar with tap water or rarefied water for a day or two, dump it out and rewater the pickles so you can soak out the sweet. They ' ll still be a little sweet anyway, but it famously reduces the sugar and your sweet tooth will be much satisfied.
Also, lots of crisp celery with no - carb creamy dressings ( no hidden sugar kinds like Marie ' s ) is a GREAT satisfying snack.
Twinkles!
AKRedHead
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 9: 53 pm   Post subject: Re: Constipation / Bathroom woes
I tried that smooth move tea and holy moly... it worked.
And it wasn ' t horrible tasting. So yay for that.
- Chelsea
Twinkles wrote:
Smooth Move herbal tea ( do it when you ' re home and near the bath over the weekend!! ) and psyllium husk will keep you quite regular and pain free in the bathroom. These work unbelievably well together. Also eat less and less red meat and concentrate more on fresh fish broiled or pan fried in olive oil and butter. Chicken and fresh fish seem to make less sludge in the intestines than beef.
Pickles can be eaten if you get the unsweet kind. HOWEVER you will be really happy to know that Vlasic makes pickles sweetened with SPLENDA. These are wonderful. I like to rinse sweet pickles really good in lots of cold water. The cold water keeps them a little crisp and rinses away much of the sugar. In fact, if you want to you can replace the water in the jar with tap water or distilled water for a day or two, dump it out and rewater the pickles so you can soak out the sweet. They ' ll still be a little sweet anyway, but it greatly reduces the sugar and your sweet tooth will be much satisfied.
Also, lots of crisp celery with no - carb creamy dressings ( no hidden sugar kinds like Marie ' s ) is a GREAT satisfying snack.
Twinkles!
Twinkles
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 11: 04 pm   Post subject: Pickles
Oh, I am so glad to hear back from you on that Smooth Move herbal lax. Yep, after a friend of mine told me about it, I bought a box and didn ' t use it for like two years. I just tried it last year, I think, and WOW. I love that stuff. Now I also find that just putting a tablespoon of Psyllium husk powder in one of those Atkins shakes does the trick also, so I don ' t even really need the tea unless I just feel like having it. Psyllium husk is extremely cheap to buy. I buy it at the health food supermarket in a large cannister for $7. 99 or less.
Twinkles

2008-11-06T01:57:00.000-08:00

Diet coke
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JMA1
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Thu May 15, 2008 4: 49 pm   Post subject: Diet coke
Hi is it really a big problem if I have caffeine free diet coke>>>
heyla44
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Thu May 15, 2008 5: 06 pm   Post subject:
I think it ' s ok but there ' s something about aspartame that ' s bad.
Sorry, totally pointless reply. Someone with proper learning will give you a better answer!
wheresmycoat
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Thu May 15, 2008 5: 31 pm   Post subject:
i would do so only sparingly and certainly not on induction. the aspartame has been known to stall weight loss and acutally increase your inclination for MORE sweet things. all things being equal, when i drank diet coke my weight loss was slower than when i cut it out and only drank water. [ / icon_cool. gif]
JMA1
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Thu May 15, 2008 7: 45 pm   Post subject: Caffeine free diet coke
Yeah I guess its best not to, but i must say i ' ve lost 7lb the first week and I have been drinking it, i need my one little luxury drink!!! Apart from that I do like the old sparkling water with ice too!! I wonder what the weight loss will be like in the second week as my body is in ketosis.
emomoney
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Thu May 15, 2008 8: 43 pm   Post subject:
If you really need a diet soda, go with Diet Rite. It ' s sweetened with Splenda.

2008-11-06T00:58:00.003-08:00

Need a buddy...

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sposluk

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 1: 18 pm Post subject: Need a buddy...

I started Atkins because I went through a pretty bad break up, and I wanna focus all of my energy in a positive way.... getting healthier. I have about 40 lbs to lose, and I just want someone to talk to throughout this. I ' m 20 years old, female ( if that matters ).

leespot

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 1: 30 pm Post subject:

Hey, I ' ve just started the induction myself today, and have a similar amount of weight to lose too. I ' m a guy though so looking at the other posts might lose it a bit quicker! I ' m 6 ' 1 " at currently 240lb, ideal weight is less than 200lb but it ' s a start!

sposluk

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 1: 52 pm Post subject:

Keep in touch! I risk we could both use the support.

leespot

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 2: 40 pm Post subject:

I will do - I ' ll post my stats / progress later on. Good Luck! [ / icon_wink. gif]

carolinei

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 3: 47 pm Post subject:

Hi,

I ' m Caroline, have 35 - 40lbs to loose, so I know how you feel. This is my second week and I have lost 7. 5lbs in week one. If I can stick to the Low Carbs then anyone can, as I never last on any fad or diet I try as it doesn ' t work quick enough.

But with this my entire attitude to eating has changed and I most sincerely believe this is the best way of life for me, as I have not been this happy or in control in a long time.

We can does this, so good luck.

Rgds

Caroline

sposluk

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 6: 47 pm Post subject:

keep me posted on your progess, and ill do the same! motivation is the only way to get through this.

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* Crunch! *

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stina85

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Sat Aug 09, 2008 1: 35 pm Post subject: * Crunch! *

Ok, I am about to start the first two weeks and I ' ve spent a lot of time planning so I ' m prepared. I went over the food list and realize there ' s a lot of creativity room... Guacamole, Chicken / tuna salad.... etc... but what can you eat WITH it since crackers and chips are out? I kinda need some crunch to be happy.... Any suggestions for no / low carb " crunch? " Thanks!!

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pork rinds... ( just make sure you get a variety without sugar ). But be careful, they have an terrible amount of calories, and unless you want to lose 100 + pounds, you should eat them in great soundness. As a treat, not a staple.

Also, check the recipe board for flaxseed bread. really good and easy to make.

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Sat Aug 09, 2008 3: 42 pm Post subject:

Celery... cucumber circles... zucchini circles... cheese " crackers "... rashes ( oops... Edited to say RADISHES, lol )... and my personal favorite once you get to OWL, these bran crispbreads:

They have 12 calories per cracker and 5 grams of fiber. They help with constipation if that ' s ever an issue, too. I like to squish a triangle of Laughing Cow cheese between two crackers for a low calorie, low carb, very high fiber snack.

Here is the ingredient list: Unprocessed wheat bran, rye flour, salt ( salt content 0. 4 % ). So they do have rye flour. Avoid if you ' re totally avoiding all grains. As I ' m in the later levels of OWL, I will have these when " needed ". [ / icon_wink. gif]

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Sat Aug 09, 2008 7: 50 pm Post subject:

wow thanks for the suggestions guys! can ' t wait to get started... i ' m doing my grocery shopping today.

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what am i doing wrong

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 2: 02 am Post subject: what am i doing wrong

Hello All,

I ' m new to atkins and on day 3 of induction. I weighed myself today and have gained 1 / 2 a pound. I ' m not sure what I ' m doing wrong. I ' m drinking 8 - 10 glasses of water and I ate

day 1

2 eggs, with cheese and bacon

sugar free jello

tuna with 3 tablespoons of mayo

string cheese

and deep dish low carb pizza quiche

for dinner

day 2

2 eggs, with cheese and bacon

sugar free jello

chicken with 3 tablespoons of mayo

string cheese

and a bacon cheeseburger crustless quiche

day 3

2 eggs, with cheese and bacon

sugar free jello

tuna with 3 tablespoons of mayo

string cheese

pork and sauerkraut for dinner

I have thrown some regular pepperoni in as a snack too ( 0 carbs )

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!

Tissha

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 2: 31 am Post subject:

Are you drinking tons of water? The SF jello could be a problem ( it is for some, though not for me ). Try keto stix because you may be in ketosis even if the pounds arent dropping off.... Just be patient - the loss will come!!

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 2: 38 am Post subject:

does anyone know if there is a max amount of sugar free jello one can or should consume a day? i had maybe two spoonful bites today for the heck of it, lol. i had bought 3 packages of flavored walmart - brand jello and have now finally gotten around to making it, lol.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 6: 01 am Post subject:

A lot.

A lot lot.

A lot lot lot lot.

Thats all I know from personal experience.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 2: 59 pm Post subject:

Thank you so much for your encouragement! I got on the scale today and I ' m now down 3 pounds, so it must be working. I think that trying so many different things and being so big for so long has me paranoid that I ' m not going to be able to do it! Thanks again! [ / icon_biggrin. gif]

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 4: 47 pm Post subject:

You will do it! It will come. Be dilligent and keep up the great work! Congrats and Welcome.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 6: 04 pm Post subject:

You got this! You can do it this time! Keep coming on here and posting and getting the support you need. Oh, and SF Jello rocks!

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Sat Aug 09, 2008 5: 37 pm Post subject:

I ' m concerned because I don ' t see any vegetables in this diet except for one serving of sauerkraut. Where are you getting your 20 grams of carbs from? Not sure if that would impact weight loss, but still, you should be eating veggies. Are they hiding in your quiche? A whole 2 cups worth?

( I have a hard time eating the veggies myself because I ' m never hungry, so I try to eat a big salad w / veggies once a day. )

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2008-11-04T05:15:00.014-08:00

Found an induction diet coke in England.....

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Mon Jun 09, 2008 12: 52 pm Post subject: Found an induction diet coke in England.....

...... ' Marks and Spencers ' diet cola sugar-coated with sucralose, 0. 5g carbs for a 500ml bottle, so if you are missing it I have found one. ( although better off drinking water, it just makes a change )

Checked book and sucralose ok, just have to count it [ / icon_biggrin. gif]

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Mon Jun 09, 2008 5: 16 pm Post subject:

That ' s brilliant! I love diet coke but worry about the aspartame! We have Marks and Spencers over here, you have COMPLETELY made my day! Lol! [ / icon_lol. gif]

2008-10-14T03:39:00.264-07:00

Sugarless and aspartame free gum
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 9: 35 pm Post subject: Sugarless and aspartame free gum
I ' ve been searching for apartame free gum for fully some time here in the UK and haven ' t been able to find any on the store shelves.
I did some research online and have since ordered a couple boxes of gum from a company called ElimiTaste, based in the US, that produces gum nectareous with Xylitol ( a sugar alcohol ) rather than aspartame. ( Google it to find the website )
It works out to be a bit more expensive than the stuff in the store, but have to say that I am happy with my purchase and would recommend it. I ordered the Zapp Electromint and Smoke - screen Insane Maxx Mint flavours. Luckily they have free shipping on all orders ( including international ).
PS - if anyone knows of any aspartame free gum you can buy from the shops in the UK please let me know. I am having a hard time finding any sucralose sweetened products here, hasn ' t seemed to have caught on well.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.263-07:00

When do we move to OWL?
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Append Jul 30, 2008 6: 54 am   Post subject: When do we move to OWL?
I got the Atkins book today and I ' m reading it. ( Dr Atkins ' New Diet Revolution ) and it seems like he means us to only be on Induction for 2 weeks no matter how much weight we need to lose and then we go to OWL. is that true?
Am I misunderstanding?
I have been on induction for 2 weeks plus now. Should I move to OWL or should I stay on Induction?
A possible key note in the answer is that I want to lose my weight more than I want to retrieve the bent to eat different foods. My weight loss is top priority!
But I need to know this because I don ' t wanna hurt myself but being on Induction too long.
Just a clarification please!
Thanks!
Shei
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Annex Jul 30, 2008 10: 54 am   Post subject:
The diet was designed so that Induction was only 2 weeks long... long enough to INDUCE ketosis in most people and time enough for an encouraging weight loss, inasmuch as the name Induction. However, keep reading and you ' ll see that he says it ' s ok to continue in Induction longer if you want. He also says in there that you shouldn ' t stay in Induction past the 1 / 2 way mark to goal. At that point you move into OWL and start to learn to eat different carbs... and prepare yourself / body for Pre - Maintenance... which prepares you for Maintenance. His plan / diet is designed so if you succeed the steps, you ' ll have the learning and skills to KEEP IT OFF. If you come screeching into your goal weight at Induction level what will you do? Live this way boundless? Try to figure it out then? That ' s kinda like getting a job as a captain and then taking flying lessons. [ / icon_rolleyes. gif] OWL and P - M are important steps to take. Avoiding them will only hurt you in the long run. Yes, maybe you ' d get " skinny " faster on 20 carbs a day... but the chances are not in your favor that you ' ve learned how to keep it off. Try to look at your weight loss journey as the time to learn how to live thin. It ' s not just the time to GET thin...
Tril
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 1: 54 pm   Post subject:
I ' d like to add that staying on induction for X period of time isn ' t going to PHYSICALLY hurt you, more that what the point is that for most people stepping off induction is something they need to do in the prepared phases in order to train themselves how to live atkins as a sustainable lifestyle.
It ' s not physically dangerous to be on induction for a month or so or three... if it were, rest assured there would be no Atkins diet, and his wikipedia page would be a testimony to the deaths he caused. No. theres nothing unsafe about being on induction for more than 2 weeks, I would not be concerned.
Last time I stayed on it for the first 70 lbs of my weight loss, then chipped away at the last 40 or so a bit more slowly in OWLS. That took me several months.
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 4: 40 pm   Post subject:
Thanks guys!
Seeing as I have 112 left to lose, I should stay on Induction longer, right? I would probably stay til I have only 50 left or so? Right?
Thanks for always being here for me with answers! I just wanted to make sure I was doing the right thing right now!
Shei
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 5: 31 pm   Post subject:
I think the 50 percent number is bs. Considering most people lose about 1 lb or so a week in OWL, I would PERSONALLY take induction until you had about 25 or so lbs left to lose.
Stepping off induction with 55 lbs left to lose means an entire year of 1lb a week.
For my personal opinion, a year of being still 50 lbs over target goal is extreme. I always modified it to be about 70 percent or so before I started modifying my diet.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.262-07:00

Dreamfields Pasta
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 7: 16 pm Post subject: Dreamfields Pasta
Has anyone tried this pasta and noticed a difference in their weightloss while eating it. I love the pasta ( it is so delicious ) but every time I eat it I notice I seem to stall even though there are only 5 digestable carbs per serving.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.261-07:00

seltzer water
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Fri May 30, 2008 1: 25 am Post subject: seltzer water
I ' ve discovered this has almost rid my craving for something other than water when i ' m eating. I can drink water all day long but when it is time for a meal, I really want something else, but I am avoiding artificial sweeteners and ice tea and really... anything but water. I dont have a scale and I don ' t have ketostix so I was wondering what people have found with drinking this. zero calories, no sodium no anything.
I ' m just happy it curves my craving for something soda like or milk or tea when I ' m eating a meal.
I don ' t even know what my starting weight is but I started Monday the 26th.
i am going to try to go by purely comments from peers that don ' t see me often, and the way my clothes fit.
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Fri May 30, 2008 11: 16 am Post subject:
I have to tell you, that ' s the only water I drink. For some reason just plain water makes my stomach feel a bit upset, it always has. At my grocery store I can get a 12 pack of sparkling water. It has no added anything, just carbonated water. I ' ve been drinking it for years, and since I ' ve started Atkins in February and I ' ve lost over 30 pounds so far. So, that ' s just my opinion, I think it ' s fine to drink.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.260-07:00

Loss of Appetite = Danger?
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arsieiuni
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 1: 31 am   Post subject: Loss of Appetite = Danger?
Hi again all...
I have a serious question...
This is kinda preemptive but I wanna make sure...
I ' m seriously losing my appetite as I go further with this.
I ' m feeling like I don ' t want to eat most of the time...
Maybe I ' m just used to feeling like I DO want to eat most of the time and it ' s weird to me that I don ' t have that kind of cravings right now?
Or maybe it ' s because of the swap in my diet from largely no meat to largely all meat making me feel blah about my options?
But all in all... I haven ' t wanted to eat much. Now I ' m kinda a little hungry but it ' s kinda just barely there... not like when I was on carbs and it would hit and I ' d KNOW it was time to eat because I ' d feel bad... Just... bleh. I could eat. Maybe should... dunno. Might in an hour or so.
And I haven ' t felt " You NEED TO EAT " pangs since ketosis set in... but all in all I don ' t feel much like eating.
What do I need to know here? What ' s safe and what becomes dangerous?
I ' m just trying to keep my thoughts flowing to supportive, knowledgeable people who can help keep me on track til I get the hang of this... I ' m just not feeling wonderful right now and it ' s making me distress a little...
Thanks!
Shei
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 2: 56 am   Post subject:
You ' re supposed to not want to eat as much on the Atkins diet, or supposedly I guess.
I always feel like eating but I ' m pretty active brawny wise and my body is always screaming at me to eat more protein.
I did however lose the cravings for the naughty stuff very fast on atkins. What you ' re feeling right now is just fine.
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 6: 24 am   Post subject:
Thanks Kyp... I ' ve read several of your posts and you seem like a very logically sound diagnostic.
I do a lot activity wise also, but today was a kinda blah day. My husband didn ' t feel very good so we didn ' t go moving like normal and I felt bad most of the day about eating... ( as in physically ) and then when we did walk a bit, I ate a little when I came back in and felt better.
I don ' t really have bad cravings for anything bad... I ' m happy... I don ' t want cookies or cake etc... I ' m craving FRUIT or Veggies that I can ' t have... lol which isn ' t so bad right? I mean to crave, not to give in to... Just kinda a good sign that those are my week spots I think.
But there ' s lots of fruit in the house for the baby and I haven ' t touched it, so all is good. I ' m not even tempted. I want to lose weight.
Thanks again!
Shei
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 12: 28 pm   Post subject:
Best thing to do in the next week or so is ascertain a few foods that you CAN have but which kind of feel like cheating, or as i call em, atkins friendly cheating.
If you can have a few of those around and you feel like oh to hell with it, i ' m going to go have a cookie, snag one of those instead.
I keep sugar free jello around and heavy cream, if I feel like cracking I put some in a bowl and rain some heavy cream on it. Works like a charm.
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 2: 27 pm   Post subject:
Hi arsieiuni. I ' ve been keeping my carbs below 25g per day for three weeks now, and I feel the same way you do. I scarcely get hungry and when I do, it feels different. It ' s not a craving anymore. I ' m aware of it but it ' s easy to ignore, and if I don ' t eat, the hunger goes away.
Like you, my main cravings ( during the first two weeks, they ' ve stopped now ) were chiefly for fruit.
I think this is good, normal, and healthy. It ' s the old feeling to which we ' ve become accustomed - - hungry cravings - - that are actually unhealthy.
On high carb diets, the body needs a constant supply of carbs for blood sugar. Blood sugar tends to go up and down a lot, and when it goes down, the brain puts out a panicky demand for more carbs. But on low carb diets, the brain and body get all the fuel they need from fat and protein, so those panicky urgent cravings aren ' t necessary anymore.
Also, once the body gets used to a low carb diet, it ' s able to use stored fat for fuel to a greater degree. We all have plenty of stored fat from our years on high carb diets. The body * should * want to use up its existing fat supply. If it ' s doing that, then it has very little need for food. I think this is a sign of health.
The * really * unhealthy thing is being hungry while your body has a lot of fat. That means the body is unable to use that fat for nourishment. That is considered normal, but really it ' s a sign of metabolic illness that is very common for people on high carb diets.
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 4: 08 pm   Post subject:
Kyp
I ' m not having bad enough cravings for anything to cave. My biggest craving so far: To be thin!
When I think about " Oh that would taste good... " I tell myself two things...
1. It wouldn ' t taste good for long....
2. Being thin would taste BETTER!
And in consequence, I don ' t cave. [ / icon_smile. gif]
Robbie
Thanks SO much for division confirm that this is the way it goes... I feel better after review you guys distinct similar behavior in yourselves.
Now today is a little different because I went to pillar on a largely empty stomach last night... I didn ' t want to eat right before laying down so I ignored it and just went to sleep. I was tired anyway. Then this morning, I ' m hungry. Actually really hungry as compared to other days so far... but NOT like on carbs. My stomach is just grumbly and empy feeling.
But all in all this is WORKING! I ' m down 6 pounds as of this morning! woohooowooo!
Thanks again both of you!
Shei
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 5: 44 pm   Post subject:
You ' re welcome! Actually I was very glad to see your original post because I came to this forum today to see if anyone described how it feels to be hungry after sticking to a low carb diet for a couple of weeks. Your post was exactly what I wanted to read.
I ' m finding the feeling to be fascinating. I wanted to see what other people say about it. Hunger feels completely different for me since the end of my second week on really low carbs. For example, right now I haven ' t eaten for about 18 hours delete for tea with a little half and half in it, and I ' m not hungry. My stomach feels very small - - I can feel that - - but the sensation doesn ' t bother me and I have zero enthusiasm to eat. Probably a want to eat will arise within the next couple of hours but it will be weak, and if I ignore it, it will probably go away again. This is completely different from how hunger " normally " feels on high carbs, which of course isn ' t really normal at all - - high carb diets are only possible if you eat unnatural foods like grains and potatoes that were created by human technology after the falsehood of agriculture.
One reason why I was curious was because a few days ago I read " Good Calories Bad Calories " by Gary Taubes which is a huge book summarizing a lot of specialist literature about carbs and diet and obesity.
Then yesterday I read every critical review of that book I could find on the Web. I was inspirited to see that one of the main attacks against Taubes ( and also against Atkins, since they are saying the same thing ) is that it ' s not proven that appetite shower on low carb diets.
As I read these attacks on Taubes and Atkins I thought, " Hmm, this may not have been proven in rigorously controlled specialist studies, but anybody can see first - hand with two weeks worth of crack whether their appetite diminishes. "
It seems so tremendously straightforward to me that a low carb diet changes the whole appetite mechanism - - at least this has been true in my case - - that I wanted to see what other people said about it.
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 9: 05 pm   Post subject:
Robbie,
That is fascinating! I have only been on the diet for 5 days as of this morning and I began to feel that way yesterday! My hunger is near to nothing! It ' s amazing...
What I do want to say is, though you seem very knowledgeable and I don ' t mean to be telling you your business or anything... be very careful about going THAT long without eating. I read on the Atkins plan you are not supposed to go more than 6 waking hours without eating.
My dear friend who got me pointed in the Atkins direction is a very heavily studied medical practitioner working toward certification to be a naturalist doctor ( gal already has a doctorate in science ). Queen told me to eat before 3 hours passed, even if it was just a little bite of cheese or a slice of deli meat because your body ' s metabolism stays up best if you give it something to do constantly. Dame climactically went on to say that if you let it go past 3 hours your metabolism starts to decline and eating just before 3 hours each time keeps it at optimal performance. Butterfly also told me that doing this will keep your body from going into starvation mode where it tries to hang on to all its fat. Just so you know and if you have your own reasons for doing as you are, and I ' m certainly not animated to know. ^ - ^ Just trying to help.
This morning I was really hungry like I said and I only ate 2 slices of fried bologna, 1 large lettuce leaf, 2 egg whites with a thin slice of cheddar on it and a little mustard on the bologna.... It looked smaller on the plate than it sounds... 8 carbs for breakfast because I was REALLY hungry. Now it ' s on to lunch and I ' m gonna eat decently again because I ' m trying to stick to that " breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper " thing. I had a snack of a string cheese right as we went out for our walk and I had a slim jim ( one of the small ones... 4 sticks = 2 carbs ) at the store to give me some energy for the walk back. Now I ' ve had a COLD shower and I feel FANTASTIC.
Thanks again for the info! It ' s great to learn more about this. I love learning about the science behind this diet!
Shei
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 1: 02 pm   Post subject:
Hi Shei,
Thanks for the warning! I think there ' s some truth in what your friend said, but it has been stretched here to the point where it becomes misleading.
What I think is true is that large, infrequent meals can be dangerous to people if they have diabetes or severe metabolic syndrome especially if they are eating sugar or carbs. The reason it ' s dangerous it that these meals ( with sugar or carbs ) make blood sugar surge. This is why ( for example ) the American Diabetes Association advises small, infrequent meals. Edit: Oops, that was a bad typo. I meant " small, frequent meals. "
It ' s also true that if you stop eating for a long time your body starts to conserve energy. This makes weight loss slow down. For healthy people, this is a * good * thing because it extends life span, but if you are trying to lose weight, it ' s a bad thing because it makes your fat disappear more slowly.
I happen not to be in either of those two groups. I ' m only about five pounds overweight ( a small amount of very stubborn visceral fat ). I ' ve been on a low - carb diet for about two years. What ' s new for me about this three - week experiment is that it ' s the longest time I ' ve tried to hold my carbs to as close to zero as possible. I did it partly to see if I could get rid of the visceral fat but mainly to see if it would elminate my migraines. ( They ' ve been reduced but not eliminated. )
> She basically went on to say that if you let it go past 3 hours
> your metabolism starts to decline and eating just before 3 hours
> each time keeps it at optimal performance
Yes, but optimal in what sense? Keeping your metabolism as high as possible is optimal for weight loss, which of course is extremely important to many people here, but not for health. There has been a ton of research for decades ( with many species of animals but not humans ) that if diet is reduced, and if metabolism slows, lifespan is tremendously extended. There is a tremendous amount of evidence that a slower metabolism is the healthier one.
Many people believe you can get the life - extending benefits of permanently reduced diet by intermittent fasting, i. e., going a day or so without eating every now and then.
If you think in evolutionary terms, this makes sense. Humans are primarily carnivores. Before agriculture was invented, humans were hunter - gatherers. Such people eat irregularly. They don ' t have a constant food supply. It would have been normal for them to eat one day but not the next. Their bodies ( and therefore our bodies ) were designed for this kind of existence.
Some people ( Arthur de Vany, for example ) believe that irregular eating of this sort is essential in order to trigger the expression of certain genes which we need for health.
One other thing I ' d like to point out is that after you ' ve restored yourself to health - - after you ' ve broken your carb addiction - - at some point, your appetite becomes a reliable signal again. As long as you ' re addicted to carbs, you can ' t trust your appetite to tell you when to eat because your body craves sugar even though it has many pounds of fuel locked away in its adipose tissue. But once you ' re healthy again, the appetite becomes a reasonable guide to when and how much you should eat.
Robbie
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 2: 16 pm   Post subject:
No offense rob... but this isn ' t the LC restricted diet california life extension forum.
Your method may work, I ' ve read up on it pretty extensively, but it ' s 100 percent completely contradictory to anyone ' s goals in this section of the world.
Just some FYI.
The evidence supporting significant life extension in humans on the restricted diet so far has been pretty ambiguous, to say the least. Walking around advocating in any way not eating for 18 hours while drinking some tea, or poo pooing metabolism boosting is in my personal opinion, a bit irresponsible here.
As for me, between the motorcycle, the vagaries of life, and the Large Hadron Collider, I seriously doubt I or probably many people are going to live out their natural lives in this generation, so frag it, I ' m havin some bacon with my eggs this morning.
robbie1687
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 3: 06 pm   Post subject:
> Your method may work, I ' ve read up on it pretty extensively, but
> it ' s 100 percent completely contradictory to anyone ' s goals
> in this section of the world.
I think you ' re arguing with a strawman here, not me. I said that if your goal is to lose fat tissue, then you should probably eat small frequent meals.
I was replying to advice that was given to me personally and explaining why it doesn ' t apply to me personally.
> so frag it, I ' m havin some bacon with my eggs this morning.
Perfectly healthy ( except perhaps for the carmelized sugar in the bacon ). I had two eggs myself. [ / icon_smile. gif]
KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 4: 01 pm   Post subject:
There isn ' t carmelized sugar in my bacon. You apparently haven ' t familiarized yourself with my posts yet. I ' m meticulous in what I eat.
Rob sez
" What I think is true is that large, infrequent meals can be dangerous to people if they have diabetes or severe metabolic syndrome especially if they are eating sugar or carbs. The reason it ' s dangerous it that these meals ( with sugar or carbs ) make blood sugar surge. This is why ( for example ) the American Diabetes Association advises small, infrequent meals. "
That ' s not conducive to metabolic increase.
Rob sez
" Right now I haven ' t eaten for about 18 hours except for tea with a little half and half in it, and I ' m not hungry. My stomach feels very small - - I can feel that - - but the sensation doesn ' t bother me and I have zero desire to eat. Probably a desire to eat will arise within the next couple of hours but it will be weak, and if I ignore it, it will probably go away again "
also not conductive to metabolic increase or weight loss.
Kyp sez... game set match.
KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 4: 03 pm   Post subject:
In any case, if atkins is still up in the air because of long term studies being lacking, then definitely the Restricted Calorie life extension diet is suspect for the same reason on a much greater scale.
I think the point im trying to make is that you don ' t put the cart before the horse, and you definitely don ' t put the retirement of the family farm into the grandchildrens name so that you can go open a soda shop in San Franscisco and talk about the good ole days before the cart before the horse, by which i mean that it ' s probably better to lose 100 lbs before you start thinking of doing a metabolistic slowdown life extension diet.
And yes, i mean you in the figurative sense.
robbie1687
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 4: 54 pm   Post subject:
KypDurron wrote:
There isn ' t carmelized sugar in my bacon. You apparently haven ' t familiarized yourself with my posts yet. I ' m meticulous in what I eat.
I eat bacon too, but since it ' s cured with sugar and has been smoked even before I heat it, it ' s a safe bet that it contains carmelized sugar. How do you avoid this? Do you buy sugar - free bacon?
KypDurron wrote:
Rob sez
" What I think is true is that large, infrequent meals can be dangerous to people if they have diabetes or severe metabolic syndrome especially if they are eating sugar or carbs. The reason it ' s dangerous it that these meals ( with sugar or carbs ) make blood sugar surge. This is why ( for example ) the American Diabetes Association advises small, infrequent meals. "
That ' s not conducive to metabolic increase.
That was a very bad typo on my part. I meant to write " small, frequent meals. " As for metabolic increase - - I didn ' t say anything about metabolic increase in that paragraph. That ' s not what that paragraph is about. It ' s about why diabetics would want to avoid going 18 hours between meals.
KypDurron wrote:
Rob sez
" Right now I haven ' t eaten for about 18 hours except for tea with a little half and half in it, and I ' m not hungry. My stomach feels very small - - I can feel that - - but the sensation doesn ' t bother me and I have zero desire to eat. Probably a desire to eat will arise within the next couple of hours but it will be weak, and if I ignore it, it will probably go away again "
also not conductive to metabolic increase or weight loss.
I didn ' t say it ' s conducive to either of those things. What I said was, I personally am not seeking metabolic increase or rapid weight loss because I ' m only about five pounds overweight. What I ' m seeking is increased insulin sensitivity and fewer migraines.
KypDurron wrote:
Kyp sez... game set match.
I ' m not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. If you want to really listen to each other and have a discussion, I welcome that. If you ' re looking for a sporting event, you ' ll have to find somebody else to fight with.
KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 5: 31 pm   Post subject:
Oh I ' m not fighting with you, im just commenting on the fact that you ' re doing the functional equivalent of posting in a child abuse recovery forum about where the best place is to find pictures of abused kids.
I fail to see where your comments have any relevancy to Atkins weight loss.
robbie1687
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 5: 44 pm   Post subject:
I made those remarks because Shei warned me that it might be harmful to me personally to go 18 hours without eating. I was explaining why, although it may be harmful to some people, I don ' t think it ' s harmful to me.
KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 6: 29 pm   Post subject:
It may not be harmful to you, but it ' s not what we do around here.
Also I get my bacon fresh from a butcher, chuckles.
arsieiuni
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 7: 34 pm   Post subject:
Guys... I think you ' ve had a misunderstanding elapse between you...
Robbie was responding to me directly and his answer is completely understandable... He wasn ' t advising other Atkins dieters to do it his way, Kyp. He was telling me why he had let himself go 18 hours without eating when I told him that going more than 6 was an Atkins no - no.
Kyp, I ' m sure you don ' t mean your comments to come off as an attack, but the attitude of them is very harsh. You ' re incredibly logical and I believe, very intelligent, thus it seems quite difficult to keep trace of your thought pattern at times, but I think you may have taken that argument to a bit of a tangent. Robbie doesn ' t seem to be trying to promote his diet style to this forum. He seems, rather, to be learning about Atkins and it just happened that I said something to him that prompted an explanation of his current way of eating. Please don ' t be agitated by this! [ / icon_smile. gif] It was all innocent conversation!
Please let this fall to peace, gentlemen... It was a misunderstanding that set you at odds... There is nothing more to it. [ / icon_smile. gif]
Shei
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 3: 16 pm   Post subject:
After two weeks of Low Carb I got so concerned about my loss of appetite I started trolling WebMD - type sites just to make sure nothing was wrong with me!!! [ / icon_biggrin. gif] Last night I got home from work, did the gym thing, then went to the kitchen to make dinner and realized I just wasn ' t hungry - at ALL. So I had some water and some almonds and called it a night on the eating. Woke up this morning and had to force myself to eat some breakfast.
This is just WEIRD. I ' m coming back to Low Carb - I did it many years ago and lost a significant amount of weight, but found it very difficult to maintain over the long term. But I ' m in a different place now ( and also heavier! ), and I think I ' ll be okay making this adjustment now. I ' ve always been a huge protein person anyway, and when I added weight - training to my workouts a couple years ago it seems my desire for protein just increased naturally anyway.
But the appetite thing is blowing my mind. I would have described myself as a Carb Addict a few weeks ago, but now I have no desire for them whatsoever.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.259-07:00

Over a little!!!! OH NO: (
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arsieiuni
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 4: 16 am   Post subject: Over a little!!!! OH NO: (
Hey guys!
I had an incident! I ' ve eaten 21. 5 carbs today!!!! It was an business! I lost track slightly because I forgot how much was in the Kofta Kabobs I tried today! [ / icon_sad. gif]
It ' s only a little over. Do you think I will be okay? I had good meals today so I think I ' ve done very well over all but oooops!
Well I read that it takes 35 carbs roughly to break ketosis so I should be okay, right???
Shei, distressed!
Tril
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 11: 18 am   Post subject:
Shei... relax, it ' s no big deal. A big deal is when you go WAY, and I mean WAAAAAY, over. You didn ' t. Atkins said " no more than 20 per day " in his book but then later, in another chapter, he said a little over and little under... just keep it around 20.
And as for whatever you read about breaking ketosis at 35g a day? I seriously doubt that. Unless that person is VERY metabolically resistant. That ' s a person who eats less than 20 ( very low carb ) and doesn ' t lose anything. That ' s not you. I have a book called " Atkins Eating For Life ". It has 4 menus in it... pages and pages of menus for 45g, 60g, 80g and 100g. So you can eventually eat more than 35 grams, ok? Atkins talks about leaving ketosis in Pre - Maintenance. That ' s when you ' re 5 - 10# from a equitable goal weight. Pre - M takes at least 3 months ( to lose those last pounds ). It ' s at that time that you ' ll be reaching the point where you ' re bouncing between lypolysis and glycolysis. Sometimes you ' ll be burning fatty acids ( ketosis ) and sometimes you ' ll be burning glucose. Depending on your metabolism and amount of exercise you can be eating a lot more carbs.
Look at page 173... there ' s a list of ranges for people in OWL. From <15 to as much as 90 a day. In Maintenance it ' s 25 to 90 + a day ( page 209 ). It all depends on your metabolic resistance and how much you exercise. Gender will come into play, too, I ' m sure... and age... but certainly we can look forward to having more carbs and still maintaining our goal weight.
All this to say... you ' re ok. Don ' t sweat it. [ / icon_smile. gif]
Tril
arsieiuni
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 4: 22 pm   Post subject:
Thanks Tril!!!
You made me feel much better!
But I ' m also maintaining this morning, and still in ketosis so I feel great. [ / icon_smile. gif]
You do totally mother us here, but it ' s the good kind of mothering. The kind we need. [ / icon_smile. gif] lol!
Thanks so much! I want to read these books but property is stupidly tight right now. I borrowed one from the library but I don ' t think I can read it in the time they allow me to keep it. I surprise if I can phone in and check it back out? If not, I ' ll walk back and forth because it ' s just on the other side of town so I can walk it no sweat. ( We do that a lot anyway. )
Shei
Tril
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 8: 05 pm   Post subject:
Shei... I ' m glad you feel better. [ / icon_smile. gif] At my library I can renew books online so long as no one else as reserved it. You might look into that. We ' re a little hick town... not a big city. The library is in a house. Check it out! I got my book, though, at Goodwill. It was 99 cents! I also got that menu book I told you about for 99 cents. I go there every month or so and look at the books... you can get * * * * on cookbooks and diet books.
Tril
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 8: 15 pm   Post subject:
Oh... I meant to add... glad you think I mother in a " good " way ( my sons wouldn ' t always agree... ). [ / icon_wink. gif] My maternal streak runs VERY deep and strong in me. I mother everyone. LOL Even my sons ' friends call me " Mom "... one calls me " Mom2 ". I stood in for his mother at his wedding... so sweet and such an honor. Oh, and our divorced friend has a daughter who calls ME and not her mom when she needs advice. You know, it ' s all I ever wanted to be? A wife and mom. Must be why I ' m so content in life...
Tril
arsieiuni
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 11: 23 pm   Post subject:
Tril
I will check the THRIFT STORE!!! OMG why didn ' t I think of that? [ / icon_smile. gif]
Oooooh and GUESS WHAT??? I didn ' t go over! I checked something and I had forgotten to count the fiber in my salad yesterday so I was UNDER woooo!!!
I get too worried about simple things like that sometimes I guess. ^ - ^ But I ' m dead serious about this diet and I don ' t wanna mess up one tiny bit!
And yeah it ' s a good thing. I ' d rather have someone looking out for me than not! My mom never really did anything but take advantage of me and she died a couple years ago, not on good terms... So I ' ve never had any " good " mothering really lol. It ' s refreshing. And maybe your sons wouldn ' t say so, but they don ' t know how lucky they are to have a good mother. [ / icon_smile. gif]
Gonna go try to figure out a creative dinner! [ / icon_smile. gif]
Shei
Tril
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 11: 37 pm   Post subject:
{{{Shei}}} I hate to hear that stuff... bothers me so much to think of kids not feeling loved and protected by their mom. It ' s just not right. So you ' ll have to put up with me mothering you from afar! [ / icon_wink. gif] Did you eat all your veggies today young lady?? LOL
Tril
arsieiuni
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Sun Jul 27, 2008 5: 05 am   Post subject:
No.... well maybe? lol
I have eaten some of my chicken casserole ( I posted the recipe!!! ) and it had lots of veggies. I also had a salad... and... um... well I ' ll have some cucumber as a snack in a minute! ^ - ^ I haven ' t eaten so much today.
I have a hard time eating as much as I should on this diet o_o... I just... I ' m not hungry!
But thank you for being here Tril. You ' re awesome!
Shei ^_^
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Sun Jul 27, 2008 11: 56 am   Post subject:
[ / icon_smile. gif] {{{Shei}}}

2008-10-14T03:39:00.258-07:00

cramping...
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kyshill
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Mon May 26, 2008 7: 33 am   Post subject: cramping...
I am sure this topic has been conquered to casualty but I have yet to find relief in any of the suggestions.
I have read about the dreaded leg cramps and I do have these SOMEHWAT but what is really bothering is arm cramps. I can only depict it as it feels as though my arms are not long enough for my body and all I can do is keep stretching them. I think they are the same thing as the leg cramps. LIke most of what I read it seems to happen as soon as I start drifting off to sleep, wakes me up. I haven ' t slept in a few days. I just recently made 30 days on this WOL and while I love everything about it, this one little problem is turning into a nightmare and I am considering quitting after 3 full nights of not sleeping.
I have tried potassium. I have been taking it all along and as the problem progressed I was taking up to 8 99 ' s a day and still nothing. I arranged my whole menu to work in foods full of potassium. I included magnesium. I stretch before reinforcement. I only had one night of rest and that day I drank a glass of a milk and ate a banana out of desperation but i would really hate to have to continue doing that.
Any other suggestions? The only other thing I have read is cutting out aspratame drinks, which I just looked and I have been drinking pepsi max which does admit aspartame. I was previously drinking pepsi one which I think is Splenda sugar-coated. So I am starting to think there might be something to this guys suggestion however he didn; t cover any information as to why this may work. I don; t have a problem switching to Pepsi One instead other than it is much harder to find so I admit I have been buying the max out of laziness.
wheresmycoat
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Mon May 26, 2008 7: 46 am   Post subject:
for starters, i am not a big follower of pepsi or any artificially syrupy drinks.
back to the point, though... if your arm cramps are at their worst during nocturnal hours, I would suggest plenty of kind stretching 30 daily before sleep. Also, try and sleep on your back with your arms fully extended to your sides ( like a petulant ) for maximum blood flow. if you sleep on your sides, and forasmuch as prevent full circulation of blood to your arms, this may cause cramping and be the culprit.
Finally, milk and banana ' s are not allowed on the diet. I would try a herbal tea before bedtime, as the warmth will help you fall asleep. Plus, camomile and valerian teas have anesthetic properties that help you relax and fall asleep. you could also place a few drops of pure lavender oil on your pillow, which also has sedative effects on the body.
good luck [ / icon_cool. gif]
kyshill
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Tue May 27, 2008 4: 49 am   Post subject: hmm
hey. thanks for your time and suggestions. i appreciate it.
although, it isnt so much the falling asleep i need help with. its the excruciating pain im looking to lessen. and i know milk and bananas are not allowed, lol. my point is they seem to be the only things that work and i am looking for a better alternative.
wheresmycoat
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Tue May 27, 2008 6: 41 am   Post subject:
yes, i understand, i was trying to suggest things for the cramps / pain ( i. e. stretching and sleeping positions ) and suggest things to relax your mind / body that will help you fall asleep and stay asleep ( i. e. teas and aromatherapy ). i also suggested you remove artificially sweetened drinks.
take it as you wish.
kyshill
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Tue May 27, 2008 6: 49 am   Post subject: well
while the diet colas may cause stalls in some, i am steadily losing a pound a day while drinking them. however, i am really really starting to think that is exactly what is causing the cramps and you are exactly right.
trying it tomorrow. i really hope thats what it is because i would hate to quit after making so much progress.
tonight i tried everything i found online, salt under the [ / icon_tongue. gif], mustard ( gross ), calcium, potassium, magnesium AND i drank a glass of milk and did 100 calf raises. I can tell before I even try to lay down i am already in pain.
anyway, i wasn ' t trying to argue with you. i ' m sorry, i am probably a little on edge from not sleeping for 4 days. i was being sincere when i said i appreciated your ideas. i actually did try the sleeping position last night. sigh. i guess if the soda doesn ' t help I am going to have to go seee the doctor. I am really desperate to try to make this diet work.
kyshill
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Wed May 28, 2008 2: 05 pm   Post subject: welll
one day with no aspatarame. first day i slept well in a week.
i was willing to defend my diet cola drinking to the end but as it turns out, i was wrong.
for anyone suffering cramps not easing up with potassium etc, please read up on aspartame. i am convinced it is poison now.

Hood Carb Countdown Now Calorie Countdown

2008-10-14T03:39:00.257-07:00

Packaging for low - carb chocolate milk from Hood has changedFor people who are livin ' la vida low - carb and love chocolate milk ( LIKE ME! ), there is one and ONLY one brand of low - carb chocolate milk that beats all the rest by a mile - - Carb Countdown from Hood. This stuff is amazingly good and tastes so rich and creamy you ' ll never know you ' re drinking a " diet " product! But, as we have seen with other companies who have scrubbed anything having to do with low - carb from their product names, Hood has decided to change the name of their Carb Countdown milk to Calorie Countdown instead. This is the EXACT same product made with the EXACT same ingredients and build in the EXACT same number of calories, carbs, sugar and fat as the Carb Countdown product did. But we can ' t offend any of our customers by having that awful " Carb " word on our products anymore now can we, Hood obviously thinks! It is funny how the Calorie Countdown packaging is almost an exact duplicate of the Carb Countdown packaging, including the font and size of the name of the product as well as the signs of " 84 % fewer carbs " ( that ' s funny, the Carb Countdown only had 80 % less carbs! ) and " 90 % less sugar. " The only other difference is they point out it has " 60 % fewer calories. " Many of you had complained that your local supermarket and food stores pulled Hood Carb Countdown from their shelf. Well, now this may explain why they did and will, maybe, now bring back the new packaging since anything that deals with calories MUST be good ( HA! - - why else would these bizarre 100 - calorie food products be such a hit with consumers?! ). Hood Carb Countdown was officially approved by AtkinsBefore Atkins Nutritionals, Inc. ran into cash problems with their bankruptcy last August, their famous logo was placed on a number of products on supermarket shelves as " Atkins - friendly " foods to eat, including the Hood Carb Countdown milk. That was one of the reasons I decided to start drinking that name - brand of milk since regular milk was much too high in carbs for me during my weight loss phase. When I was in the midst of losing 180 pounds in 2004, Hood Carb Countdown chocolate milk was a real lifesaver for me. As long as I could drink a glass of this thick, rich stuff, I never felt deprived of something I enjoyed so much as a kid and into my adult life. I ' m glad they have decided to keep this product alive because it really is fantastic and good for you compared to the high - sugar alternatives. I just confusion how many new people to livin ' la vida low - carb will know Calorie Countdown milk is acceptable for them to use. As I alluded to in my book " Livin ' La Vida Low - Carb, " the more " low - carb " products go away or change their name, the wiser you must become as a food shopper. Always read your labels whether the food claims to be low - carb or not and YOU at last drive whether it fits in your new lifestyle or not. You ' re a smart cookie ( sugar - free, of course! ) and can make prudent choices on your own about what to buy. Don ' t be afraid to check the nutritional facts on EVERYTHING you purchase because it could save a lot of headaches down the road for you. Word to the wise. Hood made low - carb juices, but they recently antiquated themHowever, speaking of Hood products, one of the casualties of the move away from low - carb was their Carb Countdown juices that had 75 % less carbs and 90 % less sugar than regular orange juice. I tried these juices myself, but I didn ' t like them too much because I ' m just not a juice kinda guy. But one of my blog readers was an enthusiastic lover of the Hood Carb Countdown juices and is now " VERY, VERY, VERY disappointed " they are no longer available. Here ' s what he wrote to me: " [The Carb Countdown juices] were a staple every morning for me, I even kept about four 1 / 2 gallons in the fridge at all times just so I wouldn ' t dash out. " That sounds like someone who really likes juice and was smart enough to buy something that wouldn ' t cause his blood sugar to spike like the sugar - loaded regular fruit juices would cause ( The Hood fruit juice was like sugar with Splenda and ACE - K ). But now he ' s desperate for another low - carb alternative juice. " Has anyone heard of a comparable low - carb breakfast juice? Juice is a very important part of any diet because it ' s so rich in vitamin C - - but it has to be low carb juice made with Splenda because you ' re 100 % correct about the standard fare which is loaded with sugar and just one small glassful will throw you right out of livin ' la vida low - carb. " I don ' t know of any other juices that are low - carb, but I may have missed some others since I don ' t regularly look for low - carb juice. Do any of my wonderfully faithful low - carb readers know about other low - carb juice options? If you want to supplement your diet with Vitamin C, then just take a Vitamin - C supplement. But it does look like my reader wants his juice back.: ) " Actually, it really ticks me off to see the supermarket loaded up with 5, 000 different varieties of juice and us low - carbers cannot even have a thimbleful of any of ' em because NONE of ' em are low - carb. " What imagery! The frustration for low - carbers continues in 2006 as we are a large market waiting for companies to step up to the plate offering us what we want and need for our healthy way of eating. If Hood has abandoned us by the removal of their low - carb fruit juices and there are no other alternatives available for people on low - carb, then where is the entrepreneurial spirit of a company in the United States of America to fill this void in the marketplace? Is there not even ONE company brave enough to pick up where Hood left off and give us low - carbers a choice in this? Surely there is a company or two who could make and market a very low - sugar, low - carb fruit juice that diabetics and low - carbers alike can use as part of their healthy lifestyle change. You don ' t even have to call it " carb " anything, but let us know on the packaging that it is " low - sugar " or contains " less carbs " so we will at least take a look at your product. Regular OJ has an unbelievable 30g sugar carbs in every 8 - ounce glass and, as my reader noted, that ' s WAY too much for us which necessitates us looking for alternatives. If you would like to contact Hood regarding their name change on their low - carb milk products and / or their decision to stop making their low - carb fruit juices, then use this contact page to make your voice heard. Maybe they think the millions of us low - carbers have gone back to counting calories again to manage our weight and health. NOT! 7 - 2 - 06 UPDATE: Well, I decided to go shopping at one of my local grocery stores in the Spartanburg, SC area today to pick up some of this new Hood Calorie Countdown milk and lo and behold, looky what came spitting out of the coupons machine at my friendly neighborhood Ingles: Click on the coupon to see a larger imageIt appears Hood is putting some marketing dollars behind promoting this " new " product to the public and they are even highlighting that it has " fewer carbs. " So why couldn ' t they do this when they had Carb Countdown milk, hmmm? It ' s about as disgusting as the Coca - Cola company pushing Coke Zero heavily with advertising dollars while they completely ignored their similar product Diet Coke with Splenda. Will they repackage Diet Coke with Splenda into Razmatazz Diet Coke and keep the same ingredients, except this time support it with adequate marketing? You know, some of these companies just don ' t have a lick of common sense sometimes, IMHO!

posted by Jimmy Moore at 7 / 02 / 2006 02: 49: 00 PM

12 Comments:

Newbirth said...

I liked the milk, but never cared for the juices. And I can ' t get the milk where I live so I have to make do with soy milk.

7 / 02 / 2006 7: 27 PM TESS said...

Crystal Light makes a sunrise orange and a ruby red grapefruit that I use for my morning juice.

7 / 03 / 2006 7: 41 AM diamondwife said...

Ditto on the crystal light. I use them as well and I think they taste great!

7 / 03 / 2006 11: 29 AM Leigh said...

I picked up my Carb Countdown today and got one of those check - out generated coupons for " Calorie Countdown. " At least they are still going to make it. We never did have the juices here. But I will have to give the crystal light a try - I like their flavored teas.

7 / 03 / 2006 5: 53 PM Newbirth said...

Trust me, Leigh. The juice was NOTHING like regular juice. It had more in common with crystal light than juice. After the first time, I never bought it again.

7 / 03 / 2006 9: 33 PM 1Peter3 said...

What was in the juice? I never saw the juice in the stores, but the picture on Jimmy ' s blog indicates that it must have had at least some real orange juice in it, since they can ' t call it a " juice beverage " if it doesn ' t have real juice in it, and it still had some sugars and carbs in it. For those who want to try to duplicate the juice, why not figure out how many carbs you would have gotten from the Hood product, and proportionately mix real orange juice with orange flavored crystal light or other artificially sweetened orange drink. Or better yet, mix the juice with water, splenda and / or stevia and orange extract and / or orange oil to make a similar ( and quite possibly better tasting ) product? Maybe I ' m missing something vital here though, so feel free to correct me if I ' m just misinformed about what was in it.

7 / 04 / 2006 10: 37 AM Single Dad in NY said...

Crystal Lite Sunrise, or Koolaid Sugar free. Great stuff!

7 / 04 / 2006 1: 06 PM Bella and Blessing said...

I am SOOO glad to hear Hood Milk is still around! Unfortunately they did discontinue carrying it at my local grocery, tho.

8 / 03 / 2006 6: 11 PM Big Daddy D said...

Diet Ocean Spray is fairly low in carbs. My wife likes the orange. To me, the orange doesn ' t really taste like orange juice. But, we both love their diet cranberry juice which has only 3 carbs per 8 oz. serving. Add a little Vodka, and you have a nice cocktail.

2 / 05 / 2007 2: 38 PM melissa said...

so is it only ok to have this after you ' ve reached the owl phase? thanks!

2 / 03 / 2008 6: 39 PM Jimmy Moore said...

It ' s only 4g carbs, so this should be good anytime as long as you stay within your carb allowance.: )

2 / 03 / 2008 8: 02 PM Barry Hughes said...

Hood is a real life saver. I love milk and being able to drink it is almost like having your cake and eating it too!

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2008-10-14T03:39:00.256-07:00

Soy Milk on Induction?
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arsieiuni
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 4: 52 pm   Post subject: Soy Milk on Induction?
I was in the store yesterday and there was a great soy milk product called 8th Continent with only 3 Carbs per serving. I THINK it may have been carbs from sugar, maybe? I don ' t recall because I didn ' t think of that til today... But My question is... are soy milks and other soy products okay for induction or are they a no?
The added sugar thing... I ' m constantly seeing mentions of it. Have I read over and forgotten some rule about " NO ADDED SUGAR IN ANYTHING!! "?
lol I probably have. I ' m avoiding sugar currently but just want to know....
Thanks!
Shei
KypDurron
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 4: 54 pm   Post subject:
The concern of Dr. A is that things with direct sugars repeatedly hit people right away and cause cravings.
arsieiuni
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 6: 13 pm   Post subject:
So should the soy milk be a no - no if it has 2 - 3 g of added sugars? How can I tell if it ' s added and not natural sugar?
KypDurron
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 6: 18 pm   Post subject:
I think your missing what his concern was... its not that the carbs are necessarily going to kick you out of ketosis because they are sugar, its two fold.
Number 1: the serving size is small, hard to stay with just the 3 carbs.
Number 2: The odds it will push you to add a bit more or to go for something else sweet is the concern.
Not exactly how many carbs it has when it comes to things that first off haev added sugar, more the instant insulin impact which causes some people to crack.
ON this aspect, its a mental thing.
KypDurron
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 6: 20 pm   Post subject:
8oz sounds great till you rain it.
Personally I won ' t buy anything that i might LIKE.. but that has a lot of carbs if I cant keep the servings down.
arsieiuni
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 6: 55 pm   Post subject:
But I / can / limit my serving size. The irregular milk would be a boon to me. I don ' t mind 8 oz at a time. I actually have been conscious of serving sizes for a long time. I ' ve been eating small, frequent meals for years and I use 8 ounce glasses.
So if I count the carbs, can I drink that soy milk on induction? I would use it occasionally. Should I try it an check ketones the next day?
Thanks Kyp!
arsieiuni
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 7: 01 pm   Post subject:
But I / can / limit my serving size. The intermittent milk would be a boon to me. I don ' t mind 8 oz at a time. I actually have been conscious of serving sizes for a long time. I ' ve been eating small, frequent meals for years and I use 8 ounce glasses.
So if I count the carbs, can I drink that soy milk on induction? I would use it occasionally. Should I try it an check ketones the next day?
Thanks Kyp!
Tril
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 9: 27 pm   Post subject:
The most basic rule of Induction is this... do not eat anything but the foods on the list.
Is soy milk on the list?
Here is one of the FAQ from the Atkins website:
" If I stay at 20 grams of Net Carbs a day, why can ' t I have some in the form of a slice of whole grain bread or even a peanut butter cup, which has 20 grams of carbs?
There are two reasons this approach won ' t work. For one, all carbohydrates are not created equal. The Atkins Nutritional Approach is designed to prevent blood sugar levels from spiking and causing the overproduction of insulin—a hormone that helps convert carbohydrates to body fat. The first carbohydrates you need to add back to your diet when you move beyond Induction are more vegetables, then seeds and nuts, then berries and then—if you are still losing—legumes and grains. Even bread made from 100 percent whole - wheat flour contains enough refined carbs to produce this insulin - raising, fat - storing effect in many people. Later, if your weight loss is progressing well and you have increased your daily carb intake, you may eat an occasional slice of whole grain bread. As for the 20 - gram peanut butter cup, it contains a lot of sugar—not to mention artery - clogging hydrogenated fat and sugar is the worst kind of carbohydrate.
Secondly, the Atkins approach is not about rapid weight loss—it ' s about learning to eat a variety of nutrient - dense carbohydrates for the rest of your life. These are foods that are packed with the most antioxidant vitamins and healthful phytochemicals relative to the amount of carbohydrates—so you ' re getting the most bang for your carbohydrate buck. Once you ' ve reached your goal weight and established your personal Atkins Carbohydrate Equilibrium ( ACE ), most people can enjoy whole - grain bread, fruit and even the occasional plate of french fries. Unfortunately, that conventional peanut butter cup just doesn ' t make the grade! "
I wouldn ' t add it to your Induction, but later on in OWL you might try it. None of the lists for Induction, OWL or pre - maintenance phases has soy milk on it... or even tofu or edemame. I found soy milk listed in the carb counter section of my 2003 edition of Atkins Eating For Life book. On the Atkins ' site they have tofu in the online carb counter. There ' s not enough protein in the liquid for it to count as a protein source.
Once you ' re out of Induction an into OWL you can try adding soy milk... I wouldn ' t add it first though. Since soy is a legume, you might want to wait until later in OWL. But it ' s up to you.
Tril
vanessa
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 9: 30 pm   Post subject:
Hi there arsieiuni ~ I would love to be able to drink milk again. A nice big glass of cold milk. I tried soy milk once and I hated it ( not when I wad doing low carb ). I once was drinking this product which was Atkins approved. It was called carb countdown ( milk and chocolate milk ) and it had the atkins seal of approval but they changed the name to calorie countdown and took off the seal of approval when Atkins went bankrupt or something like that but its the exact same thing. I honestly thought this tasted better than milk. I don ' t know though if this might affect your weight loss or anything like that so please check it out before you buy it / try it. I can ' t wait to get some but I ' m going to wait until I am closer to my ideal weight.
http: / / livinlavidalocarb. blogspot. com / 2006 / 07 / hood - carb - countdown - now - calorie. html
http: / / www. hphood. com / promos / caloriecountdown / default. aspx? id=1494
arsieiuni
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 9: 49 pm   Post subject:
Tril,
Thanks! You have convinced me not to try the soy milk just now.
I will stick to the food list. I hadn ' t realized just how important it was to not stray from that list but I get it now I think. [ / icon_smile. gif]
I ' m sorry. I don ' t mean to be so dense about it!
Vanessa,
That looks great! Maybe once I hit later stages I can try it! [ / icon_smile. gif]
Thanks all of you so much for your help in resolving this problem! I wanted milk somehow but losing weight is worth the wait! lol
curvgirldawn
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 9: 22 pm   Post subject: SOY SLENDER
Hello
Here is a link to a 1 carb Soy Milk and there are no carbs from sugar and it is sweetend with Splenda I think. So I think you may be safe drinking this on induction
http: / / www. westsoy. biz / products / slender. php

2008-10-14T03:39:00.255-07:00

Back on track and DH maybe jumping on board as well...
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smerbear
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Mon May 26, 2008 5: 38 pm   Post subject: Back on track and DH maybe jumping on board as well...
I am so thrilled right now. Everytime I do a weight loss program ( which I have done so many of ) my husband says he will do what ever I need to help me out. This last time I told him " Thanks, but the only way you can really help me is to do it with me ". He responded ( surprisingly ) with, ok, whatever it takes I will do it with you. Now he like his chocolate and snack foods so when he said he would do low carb with me I was flaborgasted. Right now it is on a trial basis but he is doing dynamite. He lost 6 lbs from yesterday today. I started on Saturday and have lost 5 lbs in 2 days. I am happy with that. I just need a lot of motivation to stick with this. I am really hoping that DH will stick with it as well, that would make it much easier to do.
Wish us Luck!!!!
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Tue May 27, 2008 12: 46 pm   Post subject:
Good luck to both of you, you ' re doing great!!
Just keep us posted. [ / icon_smile. gif]
karenjs
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Tue May 27, 2008 7: 44 pm   Post subject:
That ' s great! And it will make preparing meals, and even choosing restaurants so much easier!
sableshay
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Wed May 28, 2008 1: 28 pm   Post subject:
my hubby has lost weight just from eating the atkins way at dinner time i dont think he exactly knows hes eating the atkins way. he just eats whatever i cook for dinner and i dont really think he has paid much attention that the bread and potatoes are gone he hopped on the scale the other day and was suprised to see he is ten lbs lighter so i think its been good for the both of us... so good luck to you and your husband

2008-10-14T03:39:00.254-07:00

net carbs
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kemmmp
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Sat May 24, 2008 12: 52 am   Post subject: net carbs
I have a question about net carbs. Alot of the Atkins candy talks of net carbs which I am guessing is total carbs minus dietary fiber and sugar alcohol. Do most people count carbs this way. My original posting was about my daughter who just started the diet and has gained weight. Sis has been eating some of the candy.
emomoney
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Sat May 24, 2008 1: 16 am   Post subject:
Your daughter should be sticking only to the foods on the acceptable foods list for induction. Candy should not be eaten during induction.
smerbear
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Tue May 27, 2008 12: 31 am   Post subject:
For the first 2 weeks you aren ' t supposed to eat anything not listed on the acceptable foods list but for me I would rather eat a piece of sugar free candy or some strawberries with whipped cream to get me through. I may not lose nearly as slow but I won ' t completely get off track that way. You are supposed to subtract dietary fiber and sugar alcohols from the total carb count to get you what are called net carbs.
Good Luck to your daughter!!!
kemmmp
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Wed May 28, 2008 1: 32 am   Post subject:
Thanks for your reply, I think she feels the same way about the candy, but she really has limited it to maybe one piece every other day or two. She did weigh and actually hand ' t gained but hadn ' t lost either. She is staying the course though which is really tough right now cause she has graduation parties almost every night, with amazing food. So far she has resisted. I ' m really proud of her.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.253-07:00

Started Jogging
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robaleena
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Mate May 21, 2008 1: 29 am   Post subject: Started Jogging
Started atkins a month ago and am now jogging. I started out at 240 and am now at 214!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So very happy! Does anyone have any experience with jogging on atkins. I started today and could only last 30 almanac. I am going to try 30 magazine a day and see what happens!
kirstyb1
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Fuse May 21, 2008 9: 23 am   Post subject:
wow i think thats great, i dont think i could take over 10secs let alone 10mins
good luck with it
xx
Caoimhe
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Juxtapose May 21, 2008 9: 32 am   Post subject:
Thirty calendar is brilliant! Go you! [ / icon_cool. gif]
vanessa
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Blend May 21, 2008 9: 55 am   Post subject:
Wow. Congrats. Thats great. I joined a gym and am going to be doing 2 hours of cardio every day ( so I say ) so hopefully the pounds will drop off faster like that.
wheresmycoat
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Connect May 21, 2008 3: 29 pm   Post subject:
jogging is unquestionably fine on Atkins. Just make sure you eat 90 almanac beforehand ( boiled egg will do ), have high grade running shoes ( look for extra support in the heels ), race on softer surafces ( tarmac is hard on your shins and joints ) and be sure to eat protein within 60 magazine AFTER the dart.
Happy trails! [ / icon_cool. gif]
Caoimhe
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Knit May 21, 2008 3: 32 pm   Post subject:
Does the eating 90 mins before and 60 mins after rule further to all exercise?
wheresmycoat
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Wed May 21, 2008 3: 43 pm   Post subject:
its a good practice. i used to be a triathlete and know training very well. Here is the logic behind the eating....
BEFORE WORKOUT:
As we are cutting out carbs, which many athletes use for endurance training and general exercise, its best to give the body a little food to fuel the workout. Not at lot, or you will feel sick but a little snack. I normally go for a handful of nuts, piece of cheese, grilled chicken breast or an egg 90 minutes before workout. Do not eat within 60 minutes before exercising!
AFTER WORKOUT: The body needs to feel that after a hard workout ( equivalent to hunting food in cave man terms ), that it will be rewarded with food. otherwise, if it exercises and receives no nourishment, it will think it will starve and hold on to fat like mad to survive. Even a simple hard - boiled egg is plenty of food and sends the right message to your brain.
As a general rule, its best to eat a little bit several times throughout the day. This speeds up your metabolism!!
miffin
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Wed May 28, 2008 7: 53 am   Post subject: Re: Started Jogging
If you are only just starting jogging, it might be better to jog every other day for the first week or two.
Bri
robaleena wrote:
Started atkins a month ago and am now jogging. I started out at 240 and am now at 214!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So very happy! Does anyone have any experience with jogging on atkins. I started today and could only last 30 minutes. I am going to try 30 minutes a day and see what happens!
sableshay
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Wed May 28, 2008 1: 15 pm   Post subject:
wow you are doing awesome [ / icon_exclaim. gif] i used to go jogging im not sure i could do it anymore but you might have just motivated me to at least try [ / icon_biggrin. gif] keep up your good work your loss is very inspirational

2008-10-14T03:39:00.252-07:00

Rum and diet coke
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treacletart
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 12: 24 pm   Post subject: Rum and diet coke
at a cuban themed party at the weekend. There will be a lot or Rum. Could i have 1, maybe 2 rum and diet cokes without things going pair shaped?
KypDurron
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 2: 56 pm   Post subject:
Things dont go pear shaped but you cannot lose weight while your body burns the alcohol.
The body will use the alcohol energy before it goes back into burning the fats from ketosis.
karenjs
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 4: 40 pm   Post subject:
Yep, no alcohol on Induction. During Induction, eat only what ' s on the Acceptable Foods list. Nothing else. This is the phase where you are switching your metabolism from burning carbs to burning fat. Don ' t mess around with anything not on the list.
You can add alcohol in later phases, though, in bounds. Dry wine, not sweet. Hard liquor rather than beer.
Tril
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 4: 54 pm   Post subject:
Trea... if you ultimate to " break " the induction rules at this party, rum and diet coke would be your best choice. Just make sure it ' s a plain rum... not a flavored one. Coconut rum ( although delicious in diet coke ) has about 3 carbs per ounce. Stay away from that! Also... remember that alcohol can make you not care about what you ' re eating, either. Drinker beware. [ / icon_wink. gif]
As Kyp said... while your body is metabolizing alcohol it will NOT be metabolizing fat. As long as it ' s in your system ( not just while you ' re actually drinking ) you will be in " pause "... add some carbs and you ' re going to be launched out of ketosis. Plan to add another day or two to Induction... longer if you eat poorly, too.
In the end, only you can decide if the consequences are worth it. Maybe they are, maybe they aren ' t. At least you ' ve been warned.
Tril
treacletart
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Thu Jul 24, 2008 7: 54 am   Post subject:
Thank you all. I think I shall probably have 1. No more. I have been on induction for several weeks now and am contemplating moving on to the next stage. The thought of raspberries is too much!
As long as I just have the 1 drink then I won ' t be tempted to tuck into the rice and beans.
I was packing my fiances ' s lunch yesterday morning and I had bought a doughnut for him and I had the biggest urge to shove the doughnut in my mouth. For a second I literally lost control and the doughnut seemed to be controlling me. I managed to put it down and walk away and told my fiance that he had to finish packing his own lunch. So strange as I am around chocolate and sweets all the time and normally just fine. Pleased that I managed to gain control again, but scary that I nearly put it in my mouth
Anyway, it is my 33rd birthday tomorrow and obviously won ' t be having cake but my other half is taking me out to lunch ( day off work! ) and then we are going to walk on the beach. As I have lost weight I can wear a pretty dress and not look hefty.
KypDurron
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Thu Jul 24, 2008 2: 38 pm   Post subject:
Even moving out of Induction to the other phases, be warned just a bit that Alcohol is in one of the much later stages....
Tril
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Thu Jul 24, 2008 3: 18 pm   Post subject:
That ' s right... wine and alcohol isn ' t a choice until the 5th week of OWL.
Tril

2008-10-14T03:39:00.251-07:00

Atkins & Exercise
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Cory_T
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Thu May 22, 2008 2: 05 pm   Post subject: Atkins & Exercise
This may sound like a stupid question, but if I am already losing on average 2lbs a week ( which I ' ve read in the forum is pretty close to the max you can expect after induction ) will the introduction of exercise help to quicken weight loss, or will my body cleverly just readjust itself to continue the 2lbs a week loss even after introducing exercise?
I obviously know the health benefits of exercise ( beyond that of plainly losing weight ) however I ' m at a busy stage in my life at the moment, and only want to make the time surrender to exercise if it will further revive my weight loss.
Cheers,
Cory
karenjs
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Fri May 23, 2008 8: 37 pm   Post subject:
Exercise will definitely speed up the weight loss.
Here ' s why:
1. First, the most explicit: exercise burns calories / fat / carbs. You can actually eat more food and still lose weight if you exercise strenuously.
2. If you increase the muscle in your body, your body will burn more calories / fat / carbs even while you ' re sleeping, because muscle requires more energy to perpetuate than fat does.
3. Exercise increases your metabolism and that increase stays with you for several hours after you ' re done exercising.
4. Exercise tones your muscles, so that your body looks firm instead of saggy ( as can happen with rapid weight loss without exercise ).
5. Exercise can shorten your appetite if you are in ketosis already. Immediately after exercise, your ketosis deepens, and that reduces your hunger.
6. It can improve your mood and that will help combat tendencies for emotional eating.
Dr Atkins called exercise non - negotiable.
miffin
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Wed May 28, 2008 7: 49 am   Post subject: Re: Atkins & Exercise
Yep, get out there. It will definately help. Even if it is short walks.
Bri
Cory_T wrote:
This may sound like a stupid question, but if I am already losing on average 2lbs a week ( which I ' ve read in the forum is pretty close to the max you can expect after induction ) will the introduction of exercise help to accelerate weight loss, or will my body simply just readjust itself to maintain the 2lbs a week loss even after introducing exercise?
I obviously know the health benefits of exercise ( beyond that of simply losing weight ) however I ' m at a busy stage in my life at the moment, and only want to make the time sacrifice to exercise if it will further accelerate my weight loss.
Cheers,
Cory

2008-10-14T03:39:00.250-07:00

Is Flax okay for Induction?
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arsieiuni
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 2: 36 am   Post subject: Is Flax okay for Induction?
Hi guys!
I just wondered if Flax is okay for Induction phase? I read that Flax is a great source of fiber for people on low - carb diets and I ' m eager to try some Flax recipes, but I also recall that the Induction list said something about " no seeds " and Flax is a seed.
So is this one okay since it ' s all fiber, no other carbs? Or should I avoid it too?
Just need to know!!
Thank you!
Shei
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 3: 27 pm   Post subject:
It ' s not exactly ALL fiber, but close enough. There are varying opinions on this; I ' d say, it ' s OK, but it ' s not offcicially on the Induction list.
arsieiuni
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 4: 44 pm   Post subject:
My box says
Total Carb 4g
Dietary Fiber 4g
So doesn ' t it mean that all the carbs are Fiber? Meaning 0 net carbs?
Alright... I just wanted to make sure before I eat it because I don ' t want to ruin ketosis but I need something to help keep me from being constipated because water and veggie fiber so far isn ' t enough. I may have to take a supplement with this diet.
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 4: 52 pm   Post subject:
Most supplements are in future flax seed or something like it anyway...
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 4: 58 pm   Post subject:
Yes, it ' s ok. Dr. Atkins actually recommended flax during Induction to prevent constipation. Psyllium husks are good also.
arsieiuni
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 5: 42 pm   Post subject:
Hurray! Many thanks for clearing this up!
I ' m gonna make some stuff with Flax then!
I need it for regularity and MMm something that kinda sorta can replace flour to make a vaguely bread like item right? I have some ideas to try [ / icon_smile. gif]
Thanks all!
Shei
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 3: 09 am   Post subject:
For relief of constipation you should use the seeds whole - on salad etc. I ' ve read it has more effect that way.
I use flax meal for a lot of different things. In the winter, flax meal + protein isolate ( I prefer soy ) + a little oat bran makes a really nice hot cereal.
arsieiuni
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 3: 15 am   Post subject:
Thank you so much! That ' s a great idea!
I wanna try those muffins on the recipe board and today I made a fantastic discovery!!!! My local walmart has DAVINCI SYRUPS!!!!!! OMG I got HAZELNUT to try! It ' s my FAVORITE FLAVOR!
Thanks so much for the information guys!
Shei
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 12: 06 pm   Post subject:
Bliss... if you have any prostate issue you should be careful consuming soy. Just throwing that out there... for more info on soy, pick up a copy of The Whole Soy Story. It ' s the book on soy that Gary Taubes ' book ( Good Calories Bad Calories ) is on low carb.
Tril
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 2: 32 pm   Post subject:
Soy is nasty.
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Fri Jul 25, 2008 2: 41 pm   Post subject:
Seeds, flaxseed
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 100g
Total Calories492. 000kcal
Total Fat34. 000g
Saturated Fatty Acids3. 196g
Monounsaturated Fatty Acids6. 868g
Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids22. 440g
Cholesterol0. 000mg
Sodium34. 000mg
Total Carbohydrates34. 250g
Dietary Fibre27. 900g
Sugars1. 050g
Protein
Water8. 750g
I have found this on internet
I cannot understand, if flax seed have 34 g CH per 100g, how they can be used in induction?
can somebody explain me please?
KypDurron
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Fri Jul 25, 2008 2: 52 pm   Post subject:
I will explain, and also give a strongly worded suggestion to buy and read the Dr. Atkins diet books.
For 100 grams of Flax Seeds, they have 34 carbohydrates, and 27 grams of Dietary Fiber.
You are allowed to subtract Dietary Fiber from Carbohydrates, for a total of 7 Carbs for 100 grams of Flax Seed.
tanjicak
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Fri Jul 25, 2008 3: 06 pm   Post subject:
Ok thank you
I understand now.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.249-07:00

Going back on induction to test a product for people.
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KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 6: 27 pm   Post subject: Going back on induction to test a product for people.
I found a retailer near me that sells those ChocoPerfection bars, so I bought two milk chocolate and 2 dark chocolate.
I ' m gonna eat them this week and see what happens to my ketosis.
They claim that this new Oligofructose is a fiber and that consequently they can subtract all of its grams as dietary fiber, but its a fiber sweetener and I ' m just not sure.
We ' ll see. I ' m enthusiastic to yielding myself to test for you guys... see how kind I am?
Tril
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 7: 43 pm   Post subject:
I dunno... don ' t do it for ME, Kyp... anything with the word " fructose " in it is off limits as far as I ' m concerned. They ' re equating fructose and trans fats as being equally bad for you.
KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 7: 52 pm   Post subject:
I dont trust it either but its supposedly some new fancy pants fructose thats low glycemic load from chicory root.
We ' ll see.
It ' s probably better for people than the atkins bars and people are eating those here, so if i can give them a better alternative, then that would be a good thing.
Tril
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 8: 00 pm   Post subject:
Very true. [ / icon_smile. gif]
KypDurron
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 1: 47 am   Post subject:
Well... it definitely tastes damn fine. I ate half a dark chocolate one and half a milk chocolate one for 200 cals and 16 carbs, minus 14 carbs of their " fiber " which also happens to be their sweetener, this oligofructose.
We ' ll see.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 2: 55 am   Post subject:
Do the calories add up? Meaning - fiber does not fit any calories - so all 200 calories should be responsible to fat, protein and the few carbs they claim.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 3: 37 am   Post subject:
Yeah the calories add up but I ' ve got a buffer, I ' m just looking to see gastrointestinal effect and what kind of ketosis effect they have.
THe claim is that this oligofructuse is the fiber as WELL as the sweetener, so they ' re at last subtracting the carbs from the item thats giving the carbs, which is standard for fiber, but considering this fiber is the sweetener as well, I ' m doubtful on it.
On the OTHER hand, if it ends up not being ketosis unfriendly, tomato literally sells bags of this oligofructose stuff as a sugar replacement for cooking.
So... we will see.
Tril
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 11: 47 am   Post subject:
Kyp... you might enjoy reading this article from the Journal of Nutrition:
http: / / jn. nutrition. org / cgi / content / full / 129 / 7 / 1424S
KypDurron
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 2: 53 pm   Post subject:
Well reading that it sounds as if her claims are kind of accurate. It may not be dietary fiber in the sense of helping regularity very much but it would appear that you can count the fibers against the carb count... at least maybe 3 / 4 of em..
I never subtract the fiber 1 to 1 anyway, im a skeptic at heart.
stephani501
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 7: 47 pm   Post subject:
is this something she sells nationally?
Tril
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 8: 47 pm   Post subject:
Oligofructose is also known as FOS and inulin. Look on ingredients lists for it... it ' s in things like salad dressing and yogurts. It ' s been around since the 1980 ' s. Inulin is a fiber known as a fructan. One source of Oligofructose is inulin. The other source is sacchralose, i. e. table sugar.
It ' s being used as a fiberous sweetener here and a health supplement in Japan. It ' s not digested, but it is fermented in the large intestine. Good bacteria feed off it, so it ' s not bad for you. As long as you have good bacteria, that is. [ / icon_wink. gif] It ' s also supposed to improve calcium absorbtion by lowering the pH in the gut!
KypDurron
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 3: 11 pm   Post subject:
Ok I have to give the review after 2 days now.. I ate em on sunday.
I have been increasing my food intake as well, so it may be that but...
I ' m still in ketosis, just not as high a level, which people remind me does not matter.
As far as the bars go, I detected no gastroinstestinal issues, and they are really, really really damn good.
I even went and bought two more and fed them to non low carbers who didn ' t know, I lied and told them it was gourmet chocolate, and they emailed me to find out where it comes from.
So i dunno, it may make people go for cravings, but yeah initially they seem ok. I picked up 4 more, gonna eat 8 this week and see if I still have weight loss.
http: / / www. lowcarbspecialties. com / is the website, you can order there, OR
OR.... and I say or because it was actually cheaper for me to do it this way, you can call them and ask them where a vendor is near you. The bars were actually cheaper for me to get from a local vendor in my town.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.248-07:00

Week one of Induction and I feel so weak
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kitty71
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Lock Jul 23, 2008 11: 26 am   Post subject: Week one of Induction and I feel so weak
Hi all,
Can anyone explain why I feel so weak, Ive been on Induction for a week now and doing everything by the book. I have about 15lbs to loose. I was motile 3 miles a day to keep fit but have certainly no energy to go ambulatory now...
Can anyone help.
Thanks
Kitty71
Tril
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Coalesce Jul 23, 2008 12: 54 pm   Post subject:
Yeah, that ' s normal the first week. Your body is alteration to using ketones for energy instead of glucose. You also need to start wicked enzymes necessary for lypolysis ( fat based metabolism )... which you don ' t produce when you ' re in glycolysis ( glucose based metabolism ). Give your body time to adjust and the energy should come back. Are you taking a multivitamin every day? Getting enough water to regain for the diuretic effect of a low carb diet? Eating ALL 20 of the allowed carbs, most of them from veggies?
With only 15# to lose you ' ll need to move right into the second phase, OWL, as soon as you can... don ' t stay on Induction more than two weeks. When you have 5 - 10# to lose, go to Phase 3 Pre - Maintenance. If you still feel very fatigued, skip the 2nd wk of Induction and go to OWL early. Atkins actually recommends starting in OWL for some people... those with less to lose, for example.
Good luck and I hope you feel energetic soon!
Tril
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kdlizcole
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Combine Jul 23, 2008 12: 55 pm   Post subject:
wealth -
no suggestions here... but I will say that I am going throught the same thing. I am starting week two of induction today and I have noticed that my energy levels while I am at the gym have been terrible. Sunny to find some anwers just like you are!!
Katie
KypDurron
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Put together Jul 23, 2008 1: 13 pm   Post subject:
You ' re going to feel a bit of an energy level decrease when you first start Atkins, but this is the part where I become unpopular.
You can push through it. Your energy is not really lower, you just don ' t have the easy energy, your body has to search for it.
How do I know this? Because I ate 1, 000 calories for the first 2 months of my Atkins while strictly following it, while maintaining a 1 & 1 / 2 hour heavy weightlifting routine, plus 2 hours of high intensity cardio workout afterwards, and 1 hour of warmup cardio at 6AM before work.
So unless there are people in here arbiter pressing 300 lbs on that sort of energy level, I can confidently say that you are largely experiencing a slight change in metabolic energy banal with hitting the mental wall.
You ' re going to FEEL tired for a couple of weeks when doing the Atkins, but it ' s the same as holding your breath. When most people give up and gasp in that breath, they had at least 50 to 60 percent of their oxygen reserve left still to use.
Long story short, you feel tired, but you aren ' t starving your body of energy. It has it, if you have fat to lose, there is energy for your body to find. A regular workout at the gym for a person burns at most 1, 000 calories, and in one pound of body fat there is an average of 3, 500 calories of energy to be used. Your body is more than capable of burning that energy to fuel your daily and exercise needs, it just needs to learn how. Push through the tired and you will not only feel your energy level come back, but you will have taken charge of your health and well being in a way you may have never done before.
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 1: 38 pm   Post subject:
Thanks for the tips, I ' ll keep going, I tried low fat diets that didnt work thats why I decided to give Atkins a try. I was just suprised to be feeling so weak when the diet promised a great boost in energy levels.
Kitty
Tril
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 1: 50 pm   Post subject:
Well... I don ' t think it promises it will happen in the first week. [ / icon_wink. gif]
KypDurron
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 2: 05 pm   Post subject:
Yeah to basically break it down to the absolute laymans terms.
Before you start Atkins Induction, you are burning sugar ( Glucose ) for energy from carbohydrates.
Imagine that is Fuel A.
Once you are in Ketosis from Atkins Induction, you are burning Ketones ( Fat Energy ) for energy from your stored body fat
Imagine that is Fuel B.
It takes a few days for your body to start using Fuel B, and those days are the days in which your body is burning up all of the Fuel A it has left. So your body will burn all your Fuel A ( glucose ) even if it starts getting low, before it starts manufacturing Fuel B ( Ketones ) in larger amounts. It ' s during that process that you ' re going to feel a bit tired and a bit funky. It absolutely does not mean anything is wrong, It ' s just your body going through a chemical process.
It ' s this chemical process that is the best part of atkins, as a matter of fact. It ' s by actively making your body eat your fat instead of just watching your calories that gives the extensive fat burning weight loss that gives Atkins its advantage.
Tril
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 3: 15 pm   Post subject:
"... you are burning Ketones ( Fat Energy ) for energy from your stored body fat "
And you ' re burning dietary fat. Actually, during Induction, dietary fat ( the fat you ' re eating ) is very important... you need this until your body begins to metabolize body fat for energy. It will help make the transition easier, even possible... so if you ' re watching your fat intake ( limiting it in any way ) you ' re actually slowing the process down. That could also be contributing to your fatigue. Are you eating plenty of fat? When carbs are reduced to 10 % of your calories, you need to have a bigger percent from fat than you might be used to! At least 30 % - 50 %. Add EVOO to your salads, cook with it, eat the chicken skin... full fat cheeses and cream. Later on, in Pre - M and M it will be necessary to reduce your fat intake as you increase your carbs... but for now, ENJOY it!
[ / icon_smile. gif] Tril
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 3: 42 pm   Post subject:
Yup, that means don ' t be afraid of a bit of mayo, or some heavy cream... etc etc.
Fat is not bad on Atkins, because it ' s being burnt at such a high rate.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.247-07:00

Going to the M o v i e s! Oh no!
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arsieiuni
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 3: 02 pm   Post subject: Going to the M o v i e s! Oh no!
Ahh! Our friend invited us to see Dark Equestrian!!!! OMG! [ / icon_smile. gif]
But we ' re trying to incline what to take to eat since it ' s such a long movie and we ' ll get hungreh! Our friends don ' t plan on eating out so we won ' t have any big issue with a restaurant and trying to determine what they put in it at least!
But I ' m thinking maybe some string cheeses, a couple meat sticks for me since my husband hates them, and... not sure what else to take especially for him since he won ' t eat my slim jims!
Any ideas for something that ' s good to take along?
Thanks guys! We leave in a couple hours so if no responses I ' ll understand!
Shei
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 4: 45 pm   Post subject:
You can enjoy the smell of popcorn. It really smells better than it tastes, anyway.
I think you ' re right on the mark with string cheese. You could also cut up some veggies into popcorn sized chunks ( only those from the Acceptable List ) and eat them like popcorn.
If you ' ve cut out diet soda because of the aspartame and caffeine, bring a splenda - sweetened flavor packet and add it to a bottle of water. I know it hurts to spend $4 on a bottle of water at the theatre, but you would have spent that much on soda, right?
Tril
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 4: 48 pm   Post subject:
Just watch the carbs in the beef sticks... they ' re not all beef. Definitely bring a cheese stick or two. Other suggestions ( you ' re on induction so it ' s harder ) are baggies of cucumber slices, green pepper strips, yellow squash slices, etc.
Rather than think you ' re going to get hungry... have a meal before you go. You shouldn ' t actually get physically hungry for hours.
Tril
arsieiuni
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 12: 51 am   Post subject:
Well we ate big before we went and then we took string cheese, some cheddar, deli meat and while out, bought some grilled chicken with nothing on it at a little place in the mall.
It worked. [ / icon_smile. gif]
And the meat sticks are. 5 carbs each. They ' re tiny. It ' s okay. I like them once in a while. Not a constant snack> [ / icon_smile. gif]
Shei
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Wed Jul 23, 2008 12: 57 am   Post subject:
Also: Dark Knight is 2 1 / 2 hours and with previews, car ride to big city, return trip, etc... it was like... 12 to 7. So I would have been hungry if I hadn ' t had a snack along. [ / icon_smile. gif]

2008-10-14T03:39:00.246-07:00

Yep... another newbie!
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Beyond_Desparate
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 1: 45 pm   Post subject: Yep... another newbie!
Hey all!
Today is my first day on the diet. I currently weight 270 pounds and have tried everything else. I am a type 2 diabetic and my dr. recommended Atkins for me to get my sugars under control. He says I could possible control my diabetes and even maybe come off of meds if I would get my weight under control. I resisted for a long time because I am not a huge meat - eater face of chicken and turkey. But I will tailor I guess.
I guess this is kind of like they say an alcoholic has to hit rock bottom before seeking help. I hit my rock bottom with my weight when I realized I wasn ' t able to do as much with my kids as I wanted to because of my size.
So my big idea for being around is definitly recipes and support. I have browsed this forum for over a week now and decided I should definitely sign up because you all are so supportive of one another and I need that! So I am looking forward to getting to know you all and hopefully learn alot from you all.
KypDurron
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 2: 55 pm   Post subject:
Welcome my friend.... this is where you will find your ability from your weight, your frustration, your meds and will find a new way.
Its compass that you cant buy with any kind of quick fix diet... this is where you ' ll finally realize some success and control over your health. Good luck mate, post up some menu ideas and we ' ll be here for hte help.
arsieiuni
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 2: 57 pm   Post subject:
Hi there! Nice to meet you and welcome aboard!
I just joined up a week ago when I started my diet and I ' ve already lost 7 pounds! The results in Atkins are VERY motivating! lol [ / icon_smile. gif]
So what ' s your goal weight? I ' m going for 145 at least, and then I ' ll see how my fat ratio looks. I ' m at 254 for we ' re definitely a similar size ( with probably similar goals right? ) and it ' s always great to know you ' re not alone!
We are definitely not alone here. This forum is full of wonderful support. [ / icon_smile. gif]
If you have questions just ask! People here are very friendly and knowledgeable!
Good luck!
Shei
stephani501
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 3: 56 pm   Post subject:
Welcome!
I started Atkins on June 8th at 291 pounds. Egads! That number is terrible for me! I have struggled with my weight for three years ever since I was in a strange occasion that immensely injured me and took the life of my boyfriend. I gained about 140 pounds and literally cut myself off from the world.
About a year ago I decided enough was enough and I began to try anything to lose weight. I have literally tried every diet from Weight Watchers to Medifast to even going vegan to get the weight off with minimal success each time. I would be " good " for two or so weeks and then have a major breakdown and binge eat until I could not move. I had gotten very adept at binge eating the last couple of years......
About three months ago, my friend started talking about Atkins and how he lost like 70 pounds. He persuaded me and a good friend of mine to do it with him, so we would have the support of each other. Well, we started Atkins on June 8th and I have been going strong ever since. I have started exercising again regularly, and I have totally started addressing and changing the reasons I eat, and how I use food.
I have lost 27 pounds and I feel fantastic. I am not going to tell you that it has all been so easy and carefree. I have had to literally talk myself down from wanting to use food as comfort when I have been stressed or upset. But the way that I feel is unbelievable! I have not felt this good in three years. Honestly. The energy I have is amazing and I am completely satisfied with the food choices that are available to me. I am so committed to changing my relationship with food and I feel like I have gotten control over my life.
I am sorry for writing a book, I just wanted you to know this way of eating works, and that there are people on this forum who will offer you support and advice if you just ask and I am here if you ever want to talk or vent. Just give it a chance and stick with it, even when it seems like you have to take it minute by minute ( like I have had to do at times ). You will really start to not only see not only positive changes on the scale, but you will start to feel them inside!
Good luck to you!
Tril
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 4: 34 pm   Post subject:
Welcome, Beyond!!! So glad you found us!
And, I ' m sure you ' re going to hear this a lot... Atkins is NOT about eating meat. If you don ' t like red meat you do not have to eat it. Check out the protein lists on the Foods for Induction List ( http: / / lowcarbsite. com / forum / viewtopic. php? t=10970 ).
Think poultry ( chicken, turkey, game hens, duck, quail, ostrich, etc ), pork, fish and shellfish.... and of course, eggs! You never have to eat beef. [ / icon_wink. gif] What you DO have to eat is vegetables and good fats. Read that list and live by it for two weeks. The first 3 to 5 days will be the hardest as your body switches from burning glucose to burning fat for energy. Sometimes, people feel really bad... nauseousness, fatigue, headaches, lethargy. Just keep drinking the water, eating from the list, taking your multivitamin and hang in there. You ' re going to wake up one day ( usually during the first week ) and wonder how you EVER put up with feeling the way you thought was " normal ". It ' s SO worth it.
Good luck, ask questions and read read read!
When do you see your DR again? Most diabetics need to be watched carefully when they start low carbing... hope you ' re doing that!

2008-10-14T03:39:00.245-07:00

Two questions...
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InthePresent
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 5: 30 am   Post subject: Two questions...
How is it possible to not lose weight, but lose inches? Because my clothes are fitting better but the scale is not as friendly.
Does anyone else find that Atkins bars, although they say only 2 grams of net carbs on the casing, they actually hinder weight loss?
thanks in advance!
Lili
maro
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 1: 43 pm   Post subject:
when you do exercise muscles are tightened they get in shape so the difference comes in inches not pounds
even if you just walk it makes a difference
the 2nd question.... i dont eat bars coz i dont have them
but i think in the early stage of atkins one should only take carbs in the form of vegies as said in the book... weight loss also depends on wht kind of carbs u r taking and how tht effects our system
bluehex
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 2: 53 pm   Post subject:
Another reason why you might lose inches but not weight is the detail, that as fat is removed from your cells, it is temporarily replaced by water, until the cell walls can shrink. And water is MUCH heavier than fat. After some period of time, differing from person to person ( repeatedly, no less than a week or two ) the water is released in a advance affectionately known here as " the whoosh " ( therefrom the " Whoosh Fairy " ). Normally, you lose alternating between weight and inches, never both at the same time.
As for Atkins bars, please read about sugar alcohols in the FAQs. They have no effect on some, but they completely stall others - everything depends on how carb - sensitive you are.
InthePresent
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 4: 47 pm   Post subject:
bluehex wrote:
Another reason why you might lose inches but not weight is the reality, that as fat is removed from your cells, it is temporarily replaced by water, until the cell walls can shrink. And water is MUCH heavier than fat. After some period of time, differing from person to person ( regularly, no less than a week or two ) the water is released in a outgrowth affectionately known here as " the whoosh " ( for the " Whoosh Fairy " ). Normally, you lose alternating between weight and inches, never both at the same time.
As for Atkins bars, please read about sugar alcohols in the FAQs. They have no effect on some, but they completely stall others - everything depends on how carb - sensitive you are.
Thanks Bluehex! I didn ' t know that water weighs more than fat and how it replaces fat until cell walls shrink. Or about the whoosh and alternating between weight & inchess. You are one smart cookie.
I think I have to stop the bars. They are stalling me. Gonna have to find another thing to look forward to. Thanks again [ / icon_smile. gif]
InthePresent
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 4: 48 pm   Post subject:
maro wrote:
when you do exercise muscles are tightened they get in shape so the difference comes in inches not pounds
even if you just walk it makes a difference
the 2nd question.... i dont eat bars coz i dont have them
but i think in the early stage of atkins one should only take carbs in the form of vegies as said in the book... weight loss also depends on wht kind of carbs u r taking and how tht effects our system
Thanks Maro. I wish it was because of muscles ( [ / icon_rolleyes. gif] ) I have yet to get on that exercise bike of mine. I am stopping the bars!!!!!!!!!!
desertbitch
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 5: 03 pm   Post subject:
I think I am eating hidden carbs, too. I have been eating ham that says zero carbs every morning and sometimes for a snack. I hazard it has carbs. Plus, it must have a ton of sodium. I am not losing weight the way i should be. I have barely cheated and feel like I am doing se well. I need to be more diligent about counting my carbs, I guess.
I dont know what I am going to eat with my eggs now. If I make bacon I eat way too much of it, so no bacon.
Plus, my TOM is starting now.
I am frustrated with my weight loss, but feel so much better that I know this is the way I am supposed to be eating. I really need to get under 250 pounds by the 9th to make my first goal.
complain complain complain
pheonixheart
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 5: 50 pm   Post subject:
desertbitch wrote:
I think I am eating hidden carbs, too. I have been eating ham that says zero carbs every morning and sometimes for a snack. I bet it has carbs. Plus, it must have a ton of sodium. I am not losing weight the way i should be. I have barely cheated and feel like I am doing se well. I need to be more diligent about counting my carbs, I guess.
I dont know what I am going to eat with my eggs now. If I make bacon I eat way too much of it, so no bacon.
Plus, my TOM is starting now.
I am frustrated with my weight loss, but feel so much better that I know this is the way I am supposed to be eating. I really need to get under 250 pounds by the 9th to make my first goal.
complain complain complain
Awww I ' m sorry hun I wish you the best!! Maybe it is the ham - ham is usually mighty salty and that may be causing some water retention maybe? Is it processed ham or chunks from like a big ham? TOM will definitely also have that water retention effect! I love bacon - have you looked for the bacon that ' s cured w / o sugar & nitrites & nitrates? I found some at publix - I don ' t know if you ' ve got publix there, but maybe that would be a better choice - I just make 3 at a time so I don ' t go overboard. Would something like that help you? I know bacon is salty too but if you ' re eating less of it maybe it wouldn ' t be so bad? or also low - sodium? Maybe it would help your weight loss and help to develop a new plan to where you can learn to eat smaller portions of your beloved bacon? ( lol bacon is beloved by me hehehehe )
Do you think you might be really metabolically resistant? you may want to talk to your doc if you can & maybe try the fat fast described in Dr. Atkin ' s book to see if that gives you a jump - start? Let me know if I can do anything to help [ / icon_smile. gif]
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 8: 46 pm   Post subject:
Thanks PH,
Actually, it just occurred to me today to only make a couple peices of bacon at a time. I bought some lower sodium type, too.
I believe i am eating hidden carbs and am retaining water. I am not resistant. I just am a bit stressed b / c of money. Once I get the carbs under control, i will do better.
Thank you so much. Sorry to hijack the thread, Inthepresent.
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Fri May 23, 2008 1: 50 am   Post subject:
To answer your question on the bars, actually alot of people have complained that they don ' t work well... that ' s because they actually have approximately 15 - 25 carbs each [ / icon_confused. gif] I checked the nutrition labels before buying them, and fortunately, I didn ' t buy them [ / icon_eek. gif]
emomoney
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Fri May 23, 2008 2: 12 am   Post subject:
together4ever wrote:
To answer your question on the bars, actually alot of people have complained that they don ' t work well... that ' s because they actually have approximately 15 - 25 carbs each [ / icon_confused. gif] I checked the nutrition labels before buying them, and fortunately, I didn ' t buy them [ / icon_eek. gif]
The nutritional information is definitely different than what they claim on the front of the package. They are calculating net carbs differently than just subtracting the fiber. Here is one of the nutritional labels:
http: / / www. calorie - count. com / calories / item / 86592. html
smerbear
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Wed May 28, 2008 12: 55 am   Post subject:
the reason the NI on the back is different from the Net Carbs listed on the front is because there are items subtracted from the total carb count that do not affect gluclose levels. These items are not listed on the NI so you have to go by the Net carbs that are listed on the front and not calculate the NI on the back.
I have used the bars myself and I have been fine but they do not work for everyone. You just have to try them and see what works and what doesn ' t.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.244-07:00

Cellulite..... EEK EEK EEK
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vanessa
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Direction: San Francisco, California
Mon May 19, 2008 3: 27 am   Post subject: Cellulite..... EEK EEK EEK
Hi there all. I was wondering something I have some cellulite on my considerable thighs for all of you that have lost convincing weight if you had cellulite before did it help take that off with your weight loss or is the cellulite there still latent around. I ' ve seen on some people once they loose weight the cellulite disappers. Wondering if that is possible?
karenjs
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Posts: 544
Position: San Jose
Fri May 23, 2008 8: 47 pm   Post subject:
I ' ve lost 66. 5 lbs and my thighs look smooth, but if I shape the muscles, it feels like hundreds of little lumps under the skin. Sounds weird, I know.
I guess that ' s the remains of my cellulite and I think it will eventually be burned off. Cellulite is just another name for fat deposits.
I think that exercising the area that has the cellulite to improve the muscle tone, and eating a natural, healthy low - carb diet is the best way to get rid of it.
Caoimhe
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Location: Dublin, Republic of Ireland
Sat May 24, 2008 7: 54 pm   Post subject:
I ' ve only lost a little bit of weight so far but my thighs are smoother already! How happy am I!!!! [ / icon_lol. gif]

2008-10-14T03:39:00.243-07:00

Aaaaagggggghhhh! Leg cramps!
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clutterbunny
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 1: 26 am   Post subject: Aaaaagggggghhhh! Leg cramps!
Ow ow ow ow
Taking a multi - vitamin and drinking at least 3 liters of water a day, still getting leg cramps. Not just in my calves, back of my thighs too.
Help meeeeeeeeeee! [ / icon_eek. gif]
Tril
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 10: 13 am   Post subject:
According to my DANDR, page 147...
And I quote,
" 4. Leg Cramps
If you have leg cramps, it probably means you are losing too many electrolytes, which are full of minerals. Starting any weight loss program has a diuretic effect, which is one of the reasons it is so important to stay hydrated. Supplement with potassium, magnesium and calcium in addition to your multivitamin, and the cramps should disappear. "
[ / icon_smile. gif]
clutterbunny
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 5: 01 pm   Post subject:
I didn ' t even think to pull out the book. I ' ve gone through it, but I have a horrible memory.
Thank you!!!

2008-10-14T03:39:00.242-07:00

Cough Drops
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emomoney
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Thu May 22, 2008 2: 55 am   Post subject: Cough Drops
Are we safe if we get the sugar free ones? They don ' t seem to list any nutritional information. I used to use the Halls Defense Vitamin C drops, but they do list the nutritional information and they have 4g of carbs each. [ / icon_eek. gif]
karenjs
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Fri May 23, 2008 8: 39 pm   Post subject:
The only time I got thrown out of ketosis has been when I took cough drops when I had a bad cold. They ' re awful when you ' re on Atkins.
A better substitute would be herbal tea sweetened with Splenda.
smerbear
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Location: North Carolina
Tue May 27, 2008 12: 34 am   Post subject:
I have used the sugar - free cough drops as well. If you have to use them they are a better option then using the regular ones but I agree if you don ' t have to use them don ' t.
vanessa
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Location: San Francisco, California
Tue May 27, 2008 2: 52 am   Post subject:
I used Halls Sugar Free these past 5 days for my bad sore throat. Everything kept going well for me still kept loosing the weight. Not sure if its different with everybody though.

2008-10-14T03:39:00.241-07:00

lost 11lbs but same size!
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Sona1980
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 1: 45 pm   Post subject: lost 11lbs but same size!
Hi people!
been a while since ive posted just been busy with my lil baby!
im a little confused! ive been doing atkins now since june and I have lost a total of 11lbs which is almost a stone but the only place that has slimmed down is my facade! and maybe a bit on my bum! my top half and waist are still the same my legs dont feel any incommensurable so im a little worried!
In the past when ever i lose weight it goes from my guise, shoulders and top half of my tummy first but apart from my exterior its all still there! I had a baby 4 months ago so i dont expect my jelly belly to go just yet but there should be some change right?
has this happen to anyone?
btw apart from the infrequent walk and water aerobics every other week or so i havent been doing much excersise lately.. oh and looking after the little one... so im not exactually den muscle or anything.
will the weight loss show later?
im cheerful to have lost a stone by my bday ( 7 august ) so 3 lbs to go but it wont seem like it unless u can see the weight loss! was planning to go home to mums and look nice in my new clothes! [ / icon_sad. gif] dont see it happening now...
Im not gona quit though the scales show good signs and ive got reproduce outs from boots scales to show ive lost weight! lol it makes me feel good.
anyone got any ideas please let me know!
xx
KypDurron
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 2: 12 pm   Post subject:
You can ' t target weight loss, the beginning weight loss comes from the easiest fat to burn, and then on and on. Right now your body decided that wasn ' t where it wanted to burn.
You ' ve lost 11 lbs already, keep up the work and you ' ll see the weight come off from where you want it to, guaranteed.
Old Misery
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 2: 20 pm   Post subject:
Don ' t be discouraged! I don ' t know why your measurements aren ' t changing but if you stick to the diet strictly you will lose inches.
loser lady
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 7: 18 pm   Post subject:
If you are like me, the scale v. clothes thing goes in cycles. First I lost lbs. Then, when the scale slowed down, I noticed the changing fit in clothes. Don ' t worry, just keep doing healthy things for your body and you will notice the loss. And yes, I lost more than 10 lbs before I noticed any real change in the fit of clothes.
Tril
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 7: 41 pm   Post subject:
How much do you need to lose total? For most people it takes 15 to 20# to see / feel it or drop a size. If you only have 15# to lose, you should see a huge difference by losing 11#... if you have 100# to lose, 11 won ' t make much difference at all.
Sona1980
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 12: 23 pm   Post subject:
Well i started on 202 lbs after having my baby, im currently on 190 and would like to lose about 50lbs more for now.
ive decided not to worry too much about the clothes for now, after reading the replies i feel better and will concentrate on losing the lbs first and let the inches deal with themselves in thier own good time. My lbs are coming off and BMI is coming down so i shouldnt really complain!
as for my b - day ill just have to wear somic that fits at that time... although as a prezi im gona ask my hubby to buy me some clothes in a smaller size to provide me with some more insentive!
if shoes and bags came in dress sizes, man i wouldnt even be on this forum!
thanks for ur info guys!
xx
stephani501
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 7: 52 pm   Post subject:
I was frustrated about that too, I want my stomach to be gone! But then my trainer told me the same thing Kyp told you, the body just burns fat that ' s easiest, it does not recognize just burning " stomach fat " only.
At first I was kinda discouraged, but I started noticing the other places on my body that were getting smaller, and all of a sudden it was not so bad....
hang in there!
Tril
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 8: 26 pm   Post subject:
Where the fat is reduced is based on many factors... one of which that gets us the most is HORMONES. Belly, hip and butt fat is estrogen rich fat. Women will lose that last in order to preserve the species ability to reproduce. Lucky us.
ETA... I was wrong about the belly fat.. it ' s hips, butt and thighs where we put it on for reproduction purposes. Oops! My bad! Good news, though... you should lose the belly fat sooner! [ / icon_smile. gif]
Tril
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stephani501
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 9: 22 pm   Post subject:
Yeah. Luck, lucky us! Lol
Tril
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 9: 31 pm   Post subject:
It ' s also the reason old ( er ) women have no butts, hips or thighs... and their fat accumulation moves to just the belly ( like men ). When estrogen production falls, the hormone isn ' t there to maintain the fat stores the same way... hello menopause and the " meno - potbelly ".